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origin of JD 300 series diesels

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'71 3020

07-10-2006 22:40:36




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Always been curious as to where these engines come from. I've heard that the first ones were built in Dubuque, IA, and I know that nowadays they are built in Saran, France. I'm mostly wondering about the 276's, 329's, and 359's used in the '70's-'90's. Were the 300 series engines used in U.S. built tractors like the 4030 built in Dubuque? How about the engines used in the German built tractors like the 2955, were those built in France or Germany? As long as we're on this topic, at what point did Deere's utility tractors start coming over from Germany? Like a 2630, I believe that was U.S. built, but what about a 2640 or 2840?

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G/MAN

07-11-2006 13:36:00




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to '71 3020, 07-10-2006 22:40:36  
The 6068 and 4045 (descendants of the 300-series) are currently built in three locations. Dubuque, IA; Torreon, Mexico; and Saran, France. The "big" motors - the 400-series and larger engines, have always been built exclusively in Waterloo, IA.



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leon

07-11-2006 14:54:54




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to G/MAN, 07-11-2006 13:36:00  
Right, except there are no engines made in Dubuque any more.



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leon

07-11-2006 05:26:17




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to '71 3020, 07-10-2006 22:40:36  
I believe that without exception, for all Waterloo or Dubuque built JD tractors that used a 300 Series engine, the engines were made in Dubuque. ( I would stand corrected if it was a 6-359 engine for in the past it would have come from France.) Of course, some German made JD tractors sold in the US used French made 300 Series engines. In the past, the factory at Saran, France never made the 4-276 nor the 6-414 version of the 300 series engine. Maybe they do now, but don't think so. Dubuque's engine production moved to Torreon, Mexico a few years ago. Augusta used French 300 series engines in the 5000 series tractors assembled there, but now use Mexico sourced engines. The 5XX3 tractors sold in the US that come from India now use Indian 300 Series engines. I think they used French engines to start with but now use Mexican.

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j cook (iowa)

07-11-2006 07:09:18




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to leon, 07-11-2006 05:26:17  
Th 2440 and 2640 tractor models, built prior to 1980 were Dubuque tractors. The other 40 series tractors were all sourced from Mannheim---the 2040, 2240 and 2840!

Before that, only the 820 and 920 tractors were imported. A 1020, 1520, 2020, 1530, 2030 and 2630 are all made in Dubuque.

In 1980, the Dubuque works shifted to building industrial equipment only and production of all of the utilities was moved to Mannheim. The Mannheim 2440 is also slightly different from the Dubuque 2440.

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buickanddeere

07-11-2006 15:28:56




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to j cook (iowa), 07-11-2006 07:09:18  
Mannheim also built and exported the 510 & 710. We had the choice of it or the 1010 & 2010 at the same time. Then there were tractors like the 2120,2130, 1640,1840 that the US never seen. From the 20 to 40 series both Dubuque and Mannhiem built a very very similar tractor mechanically. During the 30 & 40 era there was some old style/new style bodies that overlapped in Canada while the new wer ebuilt in the US. The numbering series for the identical tractors from the 20 to mid 40 series was all together different from the Dubuque and Mannheim. With the exception of the 2020,and maybe the 820/830. I still haven't completely figured out which tractor matched what. I seen a 279 cu in 2120 with a Saran built engine. Drove it lots too.

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leon

07-11-2006 14:57:00




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 Re: origin of JD 300 series diesels in reply to j cook (iowa), 07-11-2006 07:09:18  
Are you perchance the J. Cook that lives right down the road from me? Don't recall that I've seen you post before.



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