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Jim Egeland

08-21-2006 18:25:46




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The 620 that I just bought, does the same thing the one did that I grew up with. Once the tractor is good and warmed up, the steering will once in a while lock. Either direction, but normally to the right. It will free up by moving the steering wheel back and forth. Any ideas what is causing this?
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Jim




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Glen in TX

08-22-2006 08:56:07




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 Re: 620 power steering locks in reply to Jim Egeland, 08-21-2006 18:25:46  
The SM2050 is the power steering service manual FIT is talking about. You'll get more info in it than what you find in the I&T. Like said try jacking the front end up. Have the front grill assembly removed and start and run it and see if the wheels want to pull to one side or the other. Sometimes you can get lucky and just loosen the pedastal bolts and with a large drift or pry bar push the pedastal back and forth some till you get it centered and wheels stay centered and you feel equal force on steering wheel to turn wheels left or right but then it when put back to center it stays there. If not then you have other problems and the service manual will help you find that.

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F-I-T

08-22-2006 07:28:58




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 Re: 620 power steering locks in reply to Jim Egeland, 08-21-2006 18:25:46  
There are several things that can cause this to occur.

If it were me, I would first jack the front wheels just off of the ground. At this point there is no resistance to feedback to the spring-loaded actuator sleeve, and it should turn smoothly from extreme left to right. If it feels like it is catching or hanging up any place in the rotation, I would dudpect something dragging in the rotary cylinder in the pedestal. Not necessarily so, but it can.

Next is the bobbin valve. When you turn the wheel, if the torque required is greater than the spring-loaded cam to actuator sleeve can stand, the cam turns and the sleeve stays put, just for a short lag. Now the cam, riding on the two 1/4" dowel pins, moves the sleeve fore or aft depending on the direction of the turn. The sleeve is linked to the bobbin valve and as the sleeve moves fore and aft, the bobbin valve does the same, which directs oil to one side or the other of the power steering pedestal. If the bobbin valve has a burr on it and sticks in theither direction, the oil keeps flowing and you can't turn it back. I would check this valve for burrs, chaffing, or gauling.

Next is wear on the two little pins and the cam and the actuator sleeve face. The cam and the sleeve have a form ground in them that is parallel, and is made so that a 1/4" dowel pin fits just inside the slot. If the faces are smooth and the pins have no flats on them, it moves very easily. Most by now have flats worn on the pins and a depression in the cams faces right where the straight ahead position is. You can replace these parts ($$$!) or if you are good with a die grinder, reform and blend them, using a 1/4" dowel pin as a guide until they are parallel again. The pins are press fit and MUST fit tight. If not they could work out of position and lock the steering. People have been killed because the steering locked and throew them off of the tractor as the tractor followed on top of them. Real serious business. I pressed mine in place and them put the smallest Mig dot that I could two places right where they sit flush on the outside of the actuator sleeve. I felt that was cheap insurance.

The last thing you need to do is to set the actuator sleeve and cam spring tension using a dial indicator. I don't like to guess here. Once set, it is good for years.

Now it could even be just a case of lower than needed flow rate. You can bump that up yourself. Search the archives for some comments on that, as I do not have a good photo with me on the road to post. If you boost the flow too far, you can get front wheel flutter as the system jinks from left side of the play gao back to the right side, and the oscillating is not something you need to have. Back the flow down until the flutter just stops. If it still hangs up, you have something from above out of whack.

You mission is to get everything back into whack.

The Power Steering manual covers the rehab of these units really well, and you need to read it several times before you go into them. Once you inderstand the function, it is really a simple unit.

Frank

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Jim Egeland

08-22-2006 07:35:25




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 Re: 620 power steering locks in reply to F-I-T, 08-22-2006 07:28:58  
Great comments and suggestions, looks like the next step is for me to get a power steering manual.
Thanks to all you guys
Jim



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MSD

08-21-2006 20:55:21




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 Re: 620 power steering locks in reply to Jim Egeland, 08-21-2006 18:25:46  
I bought one and was driving it home. I turned a corner and it didn't want to straighjten back out. Luckily I wasn't going fast and could work the wheel back and forth till it steered again. I ended up taking the pedistol apart and the big bolts that hold the veins in place were sheared off. They would wedge when you turned it way to one side. They must have been that way for awhile because they had a pretty good groove wore in the base part of the pedistol. Hasn't bother since a rebuild.

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BobinKS

08-21-2006 18:55:39




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 Re: 620 power steering locks in reply to Jim Egeland, 08-21-2006 18:25:46  
I have one that had the same problem. I was tinkering one day and loosened the cap on top of the power steering pedestal and quite a bit of air came out, then a fair amount of power steering fluid. Ever since then it has been much better at steering, though I had to add some fluid to make up for the amount lost.



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