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45 Loader 4010/B

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2pOpPeRnEwBiE

12-18-2006 18:03:44




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Bought a nice little 45 loader set up for a 4010 oops I don't own a 4010...I do own a JD/B 4440 8870 but I can not find a 4010 in my shed to mount it too other than those tractors I do have a few IHC H's and a F30 how much work is it to convert it to fit a B? or an H? Hope the 50 I gave for it wasnt toooo much at the time seemed like a song for a like new loader....BTW it is a trip buck GenI loader...

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msb

12-18-2006 20:51:10




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to 2pOpPeRnEwBiE, 12-18-2006 18:03:44  
Dealer I worked for had a 45 loader with boom pole on a 3010.What a sweet outfit for moving and setting up equipment.Those cylinders didn't care if the tractor was a closed center system or an open center one.
Had a customer that had a 45 loader on an M Farmall so it would certainly work on an H Farmall.
An old parts or wholegoods book should show the brackets that would fit at least some off brand tractors.

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2pOpPeRnEwBiE

12-18-2006 19:28:20




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to 2pOpPeRnEwBiE, 12-18-2006 18:03:44  
Well I agree thought they were for 2cylinder tractors till i loaded it up and the guy handed me the manual with a tricycle 4010 on the cover. Says 45 series 1 Hydraulic Farm Loader inside the cover says 45 was designed for use with the 3010 4010 30 series 20 series 50 60 70 A B and G but says it only applies to operation with the 3010/4010 was wondering if anyone new if the brackets were much different and if anyone had a pic of them....

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Gerald J.

12-18-2006 20:41:15




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to 2pOpPeRnEwBiE, 12-18-2006 19:28:20  
By 20 series and 30 series I think they mean 520 and 530, not 4020 and 4030. They mean two cylinder tractors and the list includes A, B, and G along with 50 and 60.

I recall a diagonal pipe on each side of the 50 with large wing nuts to the side frame of the tractor. I've not looked very close lately enough to remember how it mounted in detail. Its a Randall Machine and Welding at Randall, Iowa, sometimes open Friday afternoons and Saturdays.

Gerald J.

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jddriver

12-19-2006 08:16:09




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to Gerald J., 12-18-2006 20:41:15  
Yhere is a 45 on a 4010 up home



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Hayfarmer

12-18-2006 19:14:54




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to 2pOpPeRnEwBiE, 12-18-2006 18:03:44  
I have a hard time imagining a #45 loader on a 4010 somehow. If it has it's own valve it would be closed center valve but might be able to convert to open center. Think it would be much better on a B. Or you could just buy a 4010 to fit it.



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Gerald J.

12-18-2006 18:59:51




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to 2pOpPeRnEwBiE, 12-18-2006 18:03:44  
I believe the 45 was generally set up for two cylinder tractors, like the 50. I know of one on a 50 not far from here. And that would be for 1200 psi hydraulics. The 4010 would be for 2250 psi hydraulics so might have smaller diameter cylinders, might not. I don't know about that.

If it was me, the next step would be to order a manual for the 45 loader, either on epay or from John Deere and with the complete manual in hand you can determine the variations for B, 50, and 4010 and see what adjustments it will take to put it on the B. And you will have the information to help you use it safely.

Gerald J.

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Doug in IL

12-19-2006 06:21:44




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to Gerald J., 12-18-2006 18:59:51  
The 45 Loader had a high pressure, smaller diameter cylinder option for use on the 3010, 4010.



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Gerald J.

12-19-2006 08:09:23




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 Re: 45 Loader 4010/B in reply to Doug in IL, 12-19-2006 06:21:44  
Which is logical. Then it will be wimpy on the B without changing the cylinders which will make the $50 price not so cheap.

Gerald J.



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