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36 A

01-06-2007 17:04:24




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I have some pistons for my A there part # is A4786 and the ring clearance is in the .0008 to.0010 in stead of .0005.Dose it pay to find perfect fit rings or should i chuck them in a lathe and go to 1/4" ring instead of 3/16.What do you think




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Glen in TX

01-07-2007 16:11:04




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 Re: Ring side clearance help in reply to 36 A, 01-06-2007 17:04:24  
More places to check with for oversize rings and spacers are Otto and Niagara. niagarapistonringworks.com



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F-I-T

01-07-2007 11:20:06




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 Re: Ring side clearance help in reply to 36 A, 01-06-2007 17:04:24  
Are your decimal points in the right spot? Normally .002" to .004" ring side clearance would be a like new, factory spec.

Right now you're saying 1/2 a thou normal and you have 8/10 thou to 1 thou. Shoot, you're already a thrid of the factory nominal preferred dimension.

Unless your lands have a severe rolled over radiused edge, generally more pronounced at the top, what you have would be fine. Even Dave at Otto Engine Works, who makes and sells custom rings for any piston application posts on his site that .005" is fine and after .006" you can expect some degarding of performance, but that many folks are happy at .010". But, remember, on an "A", a relatively low compression, certainly low speed engine, unless you are intending on doing a whole lot of hot, hard, work, you can probably go up a bit on clearance and be safe and happy.

Hastings sells spacers in .020" and .030" that I have used, and they install on top of the ring after grinding to set the proper end gap so they don't shingle. Find some who knows how to re-grovve those big pistons, or you'll have a sloppier fit then than you do now.

Just 'cause they run a machine shop doesn't mean they know what they're doing.

Frank

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F-I-T

01-07-2007 16:20:49




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 I checked my book... in reply to F-I-T, 01-07-2007 11:20:06  
The JD service manual for my 70D calls out .0025"-.0045" for a new parts side clearance for the compression rings and .0015 -.0035" for the oil control rings.



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Mike M

01-06-2007 17:18:53




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 Re: Ring side clearance help in reply to 36 A, 01-06-2007 17:04:24  
You should still be able to find some ring spacers. Maybe from Hastings ?



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36 A

01-06-2007 18:22:02




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 Re: Ring side clearance help in reply to Mike M, 01-06-2007 17:18:53  
Thanks for the replyill check with them



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