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mike

01-03-2000 07:07:19

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I am 14 and need to know how hard it would be to
change the brakes on my '41 H in my ag class. We think it might just be the oil seals, if so how hard would that be.

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HMan

01-03-2000 17:55:12

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Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to mike, 01-03-2000 07:07:19

The others are giving good advice. Unrestored H's usually need brakes because they are a "pretty good job" to change,but you can handle it! If your inner seals are leaking, the lube may have ruined the brake linings, or they are just flat worn out. I've had experiance with both. You can do both sides at once,bolt a 3" piece of channel about 4' long under the drawbar bracket and put her on some good jack stands. Don't worry if the ring gear drops, this is a good excuse to change the lube in the main case. You'll have to use a puller to get the drums off, no big deal. I do suggest looking at everything (bearings and other seals)and replace as needed, you don't want to go back into the housings again. Sandblast or wirebrush and lube the pivots, rods and adjusters. An IT manual and JD parts catalog will really help. Let us know if we can be of more help, good luck. HMan

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pizza

01-07-2000 07:07:35

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Re: Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to HMan, 01-03-2000 17:55:12

see you at home

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Tom Nichol

04-18-2002 14:22:37

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Re: Re: Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to pizza, 01-07-2000 07:07:35

Hi!
I was reading your postings on working ont he brake assembly for a John Deere H. I've got one as well with a stuck brake. I've removed the axle shaft assembly from the rear end. Everything is still in one piece. Did you get yours apart and just how hard was the job? Details would be greatly appreciated! Please post your reply to the following email: tjn@terraworld.net
Thanks!
Tom N.
Neodesha, KS

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Rick Castor

09-23-2000 08:57:00

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Re: Re: Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to pizza, 01-07-2000 07:07:35

Hman,I need some advice from someone with experience servicing the brakes on a John Deere model "H".

I need to pull the brake drum from the axle shaft to gain access to the brake shoes. The exploded parts drawing shows a spacer, a tapered roller bearing, and another larger spacer that need to be pulled first.

Unfortunately, we cannot budge these parts. Was this a shrink fit? and is it necessary to apply heat to loosen them? I don't want to damage these parts if I can help it.

-Rick

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MikeH(Tx)

01-03-2000 16:44:48

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Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to mike, 01-03-2000 07:07:19

Yes, I just did that on my 41H a couple months ago. Replacing the seals was straightforward, but to replace the brakes you need to remove the axle housing as mentioned below.

The only thing I can add is that the brake linings I bought were too big to fit into under the brake drums and the first ones broke upon re-assembly. The seconds I sanded down to about 2/3 of original thickness. This was no problem, but I was VERY careful since they were probably asbestos. Respirator and shop vac going while sanding.

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CLOONEY

01-03-2000 14:19:22

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Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to mike, 01-03-2000 07:07:19

Mike, you have to pull the axle housings to change the seals.If you pull one at a time it is a lot easier. The one you don't pull will hold the ring gear up. If you pull both at once the ring gear will drop down somewhat. The seals are very easy to install once you pull the axle housings.If you pull the bearings make sure you put sealer under the bearing spacers.Also make sure the axles are not worn real deep where they contact the seals. You might want to put in new brake shoes while you are in there.

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lilputt

01-05-2000 09:33:20

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Re: Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to CLOONEY, 01-03-2000 14:19:22

Clooney made mention of a VERY important step, the sealer between the bearing spacer and the axle. If you don't seal it here, gear lube will soon be on your new brake shoes. I have had good luck with sealer PLUS a thin cross sectioned O ring between the inner cone of the inner bearing and the spacer ring. The bearing preload is also important. An IT manual says how to pre load them. If the preload is missing (incorrect assembly) your new seals won't last long! Dad learned that the hard way 20 years ago!

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Spokerd1

01-03-2000 10:35:06

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Re: 1941 john deere h in reply to mike, 01-03-2000 07:07:19

Mike : I wish I could tell you but I think that MikeH can help you with that. Seems as though you will have to remove the Axle Housings to repair the brakes.

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