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4010 Pride

05-05-2007 17:49:56




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How much should one pay for a dyno test at a dealership and approximately how long does it take. Thank you. Jon in NY




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4010 Pride

05-06-2007 17:20:14




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 Re: dynamometer test in reply to 4010 Pride, 05-05-2007 17:49:56  
Gentlemen, thank you all very kindly for your responses. The Case IH dealer is about 5mi. down the road. I know it doesn"t matter, but I just hate the thought of rolling in there with my jd4010 Turbo. Guess I"d like to be right there during the test but, last time I went to the JD dealer (20mi. away) I wanted to bring my tractor down to help them diagnose and fix some hytran leakage around my PTO stubshaftl and they told me I wasn"t allowed to be in the shop bcs of insurance purposes. Something new I guess, understandable too. I turboed my "61 4010 (just updated with full overhaul and 4020 kit) with a 4320 setup over thksgiving of 2006, has rebuilt injection pump at 4010 specs. Runs awesome, surprisingly cool too. But I just want it dynoed and set btw 110 and 115 with the idle adjusted properly. Was Pulling 4-16"s in clay today nice and easy in 3rd gear and the pyrometer stayed at 750 deg. all day. I have an m&w pan to install but haven"t gotten around to it yet. Gonna get my sweet corn in first for now. Thanks again gentlemen!!! Jon in NY

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G/MAN

05-06-2007 18:29:08




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 Re: dynamometer test in reply to 4010 Pride, 05-06-2007 17:20:14  
Most insurance companies don't "allow" shops to have customers roaming around the shop, but that usually doesn't fly because it's usually simply not possible or even practical to keep them out. It's kind of hard to show a bunch of failed parts to a customer so he can decide what he wants to do if he can't get out to the tractor and work area to do so. Usually if it's an issue, they make you wear safety glasses, etc. Not that it's safe, but we have a pretty steady stream of customers through the shop all the time.

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G/MAN

05-06-2007 12:53:04




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 Re: dynamometer test in reply to 4010 Pride, 05-05-2007 17:49:56  
Most dealers have some sort of flat charge for time on a dyno. Some use it, some don't. If you do business their regularly and aren't just some random guy they've never seen before, they might not charge you at all. If they have to wheel the dyno outside, hook it up and so forth, they're probably going to charge you. If you can wait, you might ask them if they could call you when it's already out or something if that would make it cheaper or free. Most shops charge to offset the cost of wear and tear and maintenance on the dyno, which will wear out eventually and they are NOT cheap to fix, so it's understandable. They also have to pull a technician off another paying job to do it. K.B.-826 mentioned pulling for at least a half-hour. That would be ideal I suppose, but I can almost certainly guarantee they'll charge you then, and maybe over and above their normal fee, because they will have most of an hour at least in the job, maybe more. And then they may want to open a work order and charge you shop rate if you want adjustments made, and that's understandable too. If you drive the tractor in and it's already warmed up, it will only take a few minutes to run it and check horsepower, if that's all your interested in. Checking for leaks and the like can just as easily be done by taking the tractor to the field and working it. My advice? Borrow or rent a photo-tach or direct-reading electronic tach and a service manual, so you can accurately check and adjust your idle speeds BEFORE you get the tractor on the dyno, which will save them time and you money. The only way to accurately set the idle speeds is by measure PTO shaft speed or checking the speed right at the crankshaft. The speed-hour meter in the dash simply isn't accurate enough, and if the high-idle speed is low, it can throw your horsepower numbers off. I frequently have to grab tools and adjust idle speeds on tractors when they're on the dyno, and it just draws out the whole process.

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HAPPY DEERE

05-06-2007 12:32:56




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 Re: dynamometer test in reply to 4010 Pride, 05-05-2007 17:49:56  
at our local shop the guy charges 50 bucks no matter what is needed



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K.B.-826

05-05-2007 21:45:23




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 Re: dynamometer test in reply to 4010 Pride, 05-05-2007 17:49:56  
Some dealers have a flat fee for dyno testing, some will just go by the hourly rate and charge you for however long it takes. It's probably going to take about an hour, depending on if any adjustments such as high and low idle speeds need to be made. I'd want to see it run under full load for at least a half hour, to check for head gasket leakage.



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