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rcola

01-19-2008 18:41:47




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My 4030 needs rebuilding, holes in liners I'm guessing. I've searched posts on here speaking of combine motors and such replacing the 329cid with same displacement but more hp. Can I get a rebuild kit with larger liners or something to increase power? My discbine and 535 baler challenge the tractor somewhat but I really like the way the 4030 handles. Thanks Robert




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rcola

01-20-2008 19:42:35




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to Rusty Wheel, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
Thanks for all the great information. Tuesday I begin nine days off, so apart the motor will come to at least push me into rebuild or replace mode. Thanks Robert



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rcola

01-20-2008 17:12:35




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to Mike M, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
All the comments have helped but I do wonder if 359 sleeves could be possible? I'm wanting to go with another engine but can't shake the worry of the replacement engine being worn. If I just rebuild the 329 at least I'll know what I've got.



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Mike M

01-20-2008 20:09:10




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-20-2008 17:12:35  
Have you ever had your tractor dynoed ? Could be it is down from where it should be. Maybe it is overdue for an overhaul and you will gain some extra power right there ?



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WTW

01-20-2008 17:54:59




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-20-2008 17:12:35  
Sir, You are correct when saying that if you fix your own engine you know what you have. To clear the air on putting 359 sleeves and pistons in your 329, they will not fit your 329 block. The two engines do share the same stroke and crankshaft. The bore on the 329 is smaller (4.02) and the larger sleeve from the 359 engine will not fit your 329 block. The head of a 359 also has larger valves than a 329. So if you really want the cubes and performance of a 359 you just as well find yourself a 359. A 359 engine shares the same bore as a 414 engine (4.19). The 414 engine has a much longer stroke (5") verses the 4.33 that the 329 and 359 have. Hope this is some information to help you. Good Luck, DW

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Kevin Schmidt

01-20-2008 10:59:04




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
I wouldn't bother rebuilding a 329 or 359 when there is a million of them out there in 4400 and 6600 combines. A nice running pullout engine, sometimes even with starter and alternator complete will run you $750-1000 and most people don't want a core, so you will still have your old motor.



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Kevin Schmidt

01-20-2008 17:41:19




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to Kevin Schmidt, 01-20-2008 10:59:04  
If you do go ahead and give the motor you have an OH, do it right and resize the rods and put in wrist pin bushings, get the crank, block (for tank and cam bushings) and head to a machine shop (valves and check for cracks), get the pump and injectors rebuilt, and finally don't skimp on the kit, get a full kit with all new bolts (rod and head). This is the only way you can get a lot of hours out of the motor. I have seen a lot of 'inframes' dead after 2000 hours or less, which makes switching the motor a better option dollar wise

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low budget

01-20-2008 10:05:07




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
Even without a turbo, your 329 would respond to a little more fuel. I think the origional point of his question is whether a 359 sleeve kit would fit his 329. I'm curious too, I believe the 329 and 359 have the same stroke crankshaft.



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r john johnson

01-20-2008 08:49:49




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
I'll ask the dumb question that others are probably silently asking. What engine is a 414? The 404's and 466's are as common as dirt, but a 414? Where was that engine used?

John



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road farmer

01-20-2008 08:55:49




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to r john johnson, 01-20-2008 08:49:49  
Our JD road grader has a 414



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rcola

01-19-2008 22:44:34




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to ET, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
What is the "T" after 359 denote?



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45EB

01-20-2008 03:19:29




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-19-2008 22:44:34  
The "T" stands for "Turbocharged". Personally, I think you'd be better off with a naturally aspirated 414, better low-end torque, a good jump in horsepower,and no turbo to worry about, or holes to cut in the hood. Even a naturally aspirated 359 would give you a noticeable boost over your current 359, and are a lot easier to find. Tractor pullers think that because the setups they run will live on the track, they'll live in the field, and that's not always true.

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WTW

01-20-2008 07:32:06




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to 45EB, 01-20-2008 03:19:29  
45EB, My personal 4030 has a 414T engine in it. It has no holes cut in hood for turbo charger or any other alteration done to sheet metal or chassis. Exhaust exist out the original hole in hood and tractor looks original. Yes, I do have a larger than stock turbo on it that I would not use for farming applications but the stock 414 turbo will last just as long as the engine will in a stock setting atmosphere. He will have no need to worry about having a turbo charger on his tractor. I have been re-powering and servicing John Deere tractors and engines for 30 years and let me inform you that a turbo charger is not a high maintenance item on a diesel engine. The best engine for this gentleman's needs for all practicality would be the 359T but the 414T would do him a fine job also, just more than he would really need. By the way his original engine is a "329D" If you need more information on John Deere engines and turbo's please post back. DW

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45EB

01-20-2008 09:29:54




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to WTW, 01-20-2008 07:32:06  
I'm aware of what the original engine was. He doesn't need a 50% increase in power, which is why I suggested a naturally aspirated 359 or 414. From what the man said, he's just looking for a slight power increase. I'm aware that the turbo is not a high-maintenance item on a diesel engine. He's going to be using his tractor in the field, not a pulling track, and the turbo'ed version of either engine isn't necesssary for his purposes. There are other opinions in the world besides yours, and I've found that tractor-pullers usually suggest far more power than anyone actually needs. No turbo means that nobody's going to mess up the tractor by getting too wild with the fuel screw. Just an opinion.

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WTW

01-22-2008 09:46:06




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to 45EB, 01-20-2008 09:29:54  
Sounds like some tractor puller must of steped on your chain! When it come to opinionated people you better take a good look in the mirror. I didn't say to increse his power 50%. Just because he uses a engine equipped with a turbo charger doesn't mean he is going to or has to increase his HP. The 359 turbo engine could be set to the same power level as his original 329 if he wanted it that way, the only difference besides more torque and performance is, he probably would get better fuel economy from the 359T over the 329D. Common sense goes a long way, give the guy a little credit. Besides it is his tractor and it is a free world last time I checked. DW

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WTW

01-19-2008 19:28:46




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 Re: 4030 diesel in reply to rcola, 01-19-2008 18:41:47  
Sir, You have several option to add power to the 4030. One would rebuild and turbo charge your 329. There was at one time years ago M&W kits for them. I would bet they would be hard to find and very obsolete. The best option would be to repower your tractor with a 359T engine. It will bolt right in without modification and HP can be set anywhere from your original HP on up to a comfortable 125 or more if you wanted to. I do have one of these engines if you are interested. Another option would be to repower your tractor with a 414T. It would have all the power you would need and more torque than you would ever get out of either of the first two options. I also have one of these engines I would sell. It too will bolt right in. The traction, PTO clutch and PTO power train will handle all the power that these engine will deliver. The Perma clutch assembly in the 4030 is the same unit as used in bigger tractors clear up to 4440's. The transmission on the 4030 is your limiting factor. If the extra power is needed for PTO loads only and you do not start doing field work with your little tractor that was intended for two models bigger you will have no problems with upping the HP on this model of tractor. Just keep the smaller tractor drawbar loads the same as you have previously been doing. The 4030 transmission is nothing more than a 3020 when it come to heft. If you want more information on this or engines or someone to repower you tractor send me an email. Will sell and or install either of them for you. Good Luck, DW

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