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Is a JD H worth fixing up?

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2cyl curious

02-01-2008 16:19:52




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I found one cheap.Are parts for it cheap or not?




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buickanddeere

02-02-2008 20:11:46




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
They are a cute little tractor that you can almost pickup and carry under your arm. They are the smallest of the Waterloo two cylinder rowcrops. As with any project.It's cheaper to find an intact, complete & running tractor. I'd like one with pto, hydraulics and electric start.



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Andy Motteberg

02-02-2008 17:47:16




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
Some parts may be a little higher since H's are getting pretty rare, but most parts are still available and not too badly priced. If I had the H, I'd definetly fix it up. There are not many around and they are cute little tractors.



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DickD

02-02-2008 16:07:36




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
To make it easier for you to understand,these tractors were built, and used at a time when making a living incorporated many long hot hours in the sun with temperatures that were less than pleasant. Most farmers had one tractor to do all the work. This meant starting before daylight, and working till long after dark. Most of the tractors were overloaded, overheated, filled with oil that had very questionable qualities, and still they ran night and day with little or no trouble, day after day, and night after night.
They became like a loyal friend. We depended on them for much. Now their time has come to be let out to pasture, and are beloved and revered by many. If you are on the fence about restoring the H and I mean no malice toward you,then don't do it. I can assure you someone out there is looking for just that tractor . Do yourself a favor and pass it up, but you will miss a chance to meet a bunch of top of the line people that do this and enjoy it so much price is never a factor.

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THE SMOOTHED DEERES

02-01-2008 19:28:03




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
third party image

Those H's don't have much horsepower you might want to add one of these ?



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4020LP

02-02-2008 08:08:29




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to THE SMOOTHED DEERES, 02-01-2008 19:28:03  
That's just dumb, and posting that photo here is simply inappropriate.



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P Browning

02-02-2008 12:48:34




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 4020LP, 02-02-2008 08:08:29  
4020LP -- I disaggree. That picture represents a boatload of creativey and hard work -- not just buying the manuals and re-creating what already was there! Chill out! (PatB)



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THE SMOOTHED DEERES

02-02-2008 19:49:42




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to P Browning, 02-02-2008 12:48:34  
Aww Pat you disappointed me , I was looking for a ( Not you Smoothedeere you should be quiet and listen ) ! Darn maybe next time i post ....



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AW Puller

02-02-2008 11:22:15




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 4020LP, 02-02-2008 08:08:29  
Now Hobbs, I'm sure what you meant to say was "In my OPINION, that is just dumb" As far as the photo being appropriate; it IS an antique tractor, it IS green. So again, I'm guessing what you meant to say was "and in my OPINION, I feel the photo is simply inappropriate."

YOU are the one that is always going on about everyone has an opinion and can share their opinion. I am just wanting to clairify that what you said was indeed your opinion and nothing more, because I would hate to see you try to pass off your opinion as fact.

BTW, in my opinion, I think the Oliver appears to have a neatly done conversion to accept 700+HP of big block Chevrolet.

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THE SMOOTHED DEERES

02-02-2008 08:19:07




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 4020LP, 02-02-2008 08:08:29  
Lol Hey i try !



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Mike M

02-01-2008 18:57:05




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
Worth having if for no other reason than to use as a donor tractor to fix a better one. Grab it up so some junk yard dog doesn't !



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jubilee johnny

02-01-2008 18:42:50




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
I have been restoring a '41 h for over a year. I live in NC and went to PA to pick it up. I am changing it from hand start to electric. I have taken time to watch for parts available like on ebay and have found some parts, not cheap, but worth the money. I am best at the sheet metal and painting so I will spend more on having my engine rebuilt by someone else. I have learned a lot as I go. It is hard to say what to tell you as we don't know what shape your tractor is in. I have enjoyed the process with mine, but it hasn't been cheap. It has brought much satisfaction though.

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P Browning

02-01-2008 16:48:33




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
Is ANY tractor WORTH fixing up? If one were to go at this endeavor for hire, the price tag for an "H" would probably be right near 5 figures! Most folks will restore these gems to be a part of maintaining our agricultural heritage -- it is sport! It is a hobby. And "no', my hobby may not have a worth to someone else that is equal to or greater that my cost -- and so eventual sale to someone else to realize my total investment would generally be a pipe dream.

No, parts are not cheap. If you would you like to read a summary of a full restoration, go to the JD-H Restoration Site (below), scan over to the top right to SPECIAL INTEREST, and from the drop-downs, select LITTLE JOHNNY.

This tractor came to us not stuck and very complete. We were even able to use the rear tires -- not replacing them at that time. Other key parts saved were the magneto, carburetor, hood and fuel tank. While prices are not included, parts that were replaced and or reworked are listed. I do recall over $1000 for basically a new engine!

The pricey items of today are sheet metal which can go to $1000 for all three pieces, magnetos and carbs for $300 and $400 respectively, rear wheels at $250 each, rear tires roughly the same, missing do-dads will eat your lunch, and some parts of your tractor will no-doubt demand machining -- and those fellows cost plenty.

The best approach, if you are fearful of that "slippery slope" of endless cost may to sort of search & wait -- and buy one that was once restored and appears to still be in good shape. As an example, a nice well restored HN tractor, even though it still needs some tweeks here and there, is a sheer bargain for a buyer at an amount up to $9,000 or $10,000! Also, keep this in mind, there are a few garden tractors out there that can come in easily at $10 grand. (PatB)

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patsdeere

02-01-2008 18:32:59




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to P Browning, 02-01-2008 16:48:33  
Would you guess he is a little passionate about restoring tractors (much less JD Hs)?


Just pulling your plow chain. :)



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P Browning

02-01-2008 18:46:58




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to patsdeere, 02-01-2008 18:32:59  
Hi Pat -- Are you talking of my passion, or his? I passionaltely attack every project that I take on. The reason I can do that and survive is that I make a writen plan of what it is that I want to do, and then realistically calculate the cost. The calculation part is tough to do on your own unless you have recently been through one. That's why I like to be up front with the originator -- this is a hobby where cost can get away from you in a heartbeat. And for lots of folks, that means the project encounters a series of "holds" or time-outs because there are groceries to buy! And that's the way it should be -- first things first.

I wish I had a nice picture gallery to go with Little Johnny's Journal Summary. I had a sorry camera back then, and the pix are so grainey. Our webmaster has just updated the JD-H Restoration Site, and among the new stuff are some interesting pictures of the US HNH -- go all the way over to the right under SPECIAL INTEREST, and then go to the GALLERY drop down. Be patient. These pix are of high resolution and so your cache takes a few minutes to fill. But the wait is worth -- take a potty break while you wait! That "gallery button" was dysfunctinal for a while -- and that "wheel didn't squeek" loud enough I guess.

In summary, for some great pix of the US HNH, see the JD-H site (below), SPECIAL INTEREST, GALLERY. (PatB)

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patsdeere

02-02-2008 00:03:52




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to P Browning, 02-01-2008 18:46:58  
Yours of course. I don't think I know anyone else that takes their projects as seriously as you do yours (not that taking it seriously is bad).

I tried that approach of figuring out costs, but since I had no clue what I was getting into, my estimates were way off.

Regardless, it is always nice to have someone that is extremely knowledgable (ie you) hanging around this board answering the questions that we have no clue about. :)

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P Browning

02-02-2008 04:08:13




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to patsdeere, 02-02-2008 00:03:52  
Pat -- I rather imagine the vast majority of individual lack a clue as to end-cost, particularly when on our first project. There's is no school comparable to the School of Hard Knocks".

Some day when you have the time -- send me some pix of your project. My email is open as you note above. More later. (PatB)



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John Dear !!!

02-01-2008 16:42:58




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
Most tractors in the right hands are worth fixing up nothing comes cheap you must be a good barter in order to get fair prices scarp yards , ect. maybe you could show a Pic. or tell more about it Good Luck !!



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old

02-01-2008 16:42:53




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 Re: Is a JD H worth fixing up? in reply to 2cyl curious, 02-01-2008 16:19:52  
Cheap parts no such thing but as to being worht fixing if its all there yes unless it has big problems



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