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MTBE Garbage gas and engine life

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Jerry Williams

02-10-2000 09:58:53




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I have been using the reformulated garbage gas with MTBE in my 1010 RU. ITs all we can get in my part of Maine. Another tractor guy said I should use additives or else I will burn up my valves.

Any thoughts? What additives do I need? Engine seems fine so I don't want to throw in stellite valves now "just in case"....




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Buzz

02-11-2000 07:25:20




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 Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to Jerry Williams, 02-10-2000 09:58:53  
I was at an antique plow day. A friend of mine runs an over hauled G. Anyway, as he was fueling up, I saw him dump a small bottle of 2 cycle oil in his fuel tank. I asked him about this and he told me it helps the engine run better and keeps the temp. down. I also heard of using Marvel Mystery oil for the same purpose. Buzz



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clooney

02-10-2000 15:53:54




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 Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to Jerry Williams, 02-10-2000 09:58:53  
Jerry, what are you going to do with the tractor? If you are only going to play with it or very light use just use the no-lead gasoline with MTBE. If you are going to use it hard or for extended pulling at heavy throttle put about 1qt of non-detergent motor oil or a lead substitute ( amount varies with product)in each tank of gasoline. The MTBE shouldn't hurt anything as it is an octane booster that has been used since the mid 70's.They are just using more of it now in high pollution areas. There is more of a health concern than an equiptment damage concern.

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Jerry Williams

02-10-2000 19:33:53




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 Re: Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to clooney, 02-10-2000 15:53:54  
Thanks for the answers, Clooney. I don't use the tractor hard by any means. Bush hogging five acres three times a year is it. No plowing or stuff like that. So I will just go on using that stinky gas and not worry.

BUT, should I be adding a quart of straight oil to each tank or every other as a "just in case"?



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Dan

02-11-2000 07:39:20




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 Re: Re: Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to Jerry Williams, 02-10-2000 19:33:53  
Jerry,
I partially agree with those that responded to your request. MTBE if mixed in large percentages can also cause severe plug fouling. If you have plug fouling, get some ethanol (and a new fuel filter) instead! I prefer and use diesel fuel in the gas to keep the valves clean and to lube the guides, seats and rings. I use 1/2 to 1 ounce per gallon. I wouldn't use a whole quart of oil unless you have a 50 gallon tank as it will smoke like a 2-cycle. This causes embarrassing quetions from your neighbors. Fuel oil is cheap insurance and will keep your cylinder to cylinder compression more consistant. I have used this technique for 15 years and during any service I am amazed at the low wear on valve guides, etc. Regarding MTBE, I am an environmental professional (not a tree hugger, there is a distinct difference), and it is not yet classified as a carsinogen. So far it remains classified as "potentially toxic". Don't drink it, bath in it, or pour it in your well and all will be fine. Benzene, a major componetent in ALL gas is presently considered to be more deadly.

Regards,
Dan @ Rapid City,SD

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Kelvin

02-10-2000 20:22:05




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 Re: Re: Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to Jerry Williams, 02-10-2000 19:33:53  
A little info on MTBE additive. It adds oxygen to the gas to cause it to burn cleaner. MTBE is basically adding ether to your gas It decreases mileage (inspite of what the EPA says). It does cause cancer in lab rats. It also runs hotter than normal gas. It evaporates very quickly leaving you with less than desirable gas that can cause hard starting. Instead of reg. oil you can also use 2 cycle oil. If you use too much you'll start fouling plugs. If you can find unreformulated gas buy that instead and use a lead additive if you are going to work it.

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Jim

02-11-2000 13:56:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: MTBE Garbage gas and engine life in reply to Kelvin, 02-10-2000 20:22:05  
And also you forgot to ad :polute the ground water
From all of us corn farmer please use ethanol



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