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Jim Andserson

11-10-2003 07:06:23




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I just bought a 65 3020,gas,syncro-range tractor.I am having two problems with it and
hope someone out there can tell me what the
problems are.The clutch pedal free play is
about 1" and with the pedal fully depressed
it quite often grinds the gears when shifting
like the clutch is dragging.It doesn't do this
all the time and it doesn't seem to matter
if the machine is warmed up or cold. The
second problem is that is seems to load up
on fuel to the point where it runs rough.Wide
open throttle usually clears it up and it
responds to load changes again.Governor or
carburetor?This is my first JD with more than two cylinders and its an impressive machine.
Any comments would be welcome.Thanks ,Jim.

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buckeye al

11-14-2003 10:07:20




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 Re: 3020 questions in reply to Jim Andserson, 11-10-2003 07:06:23  
A bit more information is needed regarding the transmission. When does it happen?

If you are in a gear and are completely stopped BEFORE you start to shift to another gear in the same range and you encounter grinding, quite possibly you have both a clutch problem and a synchronizer problem.

If it never grinds when shifting to another gear within the range if you were first completely stopped before you left the original gear but it DOES grind if you select another gear within the range while moving, then it is likely just a synchronizer problem.

If you are stopped before you leave the gear you were in (park does not count) and you leave the range to go to another range and you grind gears, it is likely a clutch problem.

If you find yourself grinding gears as you shift from range to range and you are moving at the time (even slowly) that is normal. You should not be moving as you shift from range to range.

These are constant mesh gear transmissions. If the tractor is moving then the bottom shaft (which gives you the different ranges) is rolling and the gears on it will be rolling at different speeds. As you shift throught the ranges(shifter lever in left side of shift quadrants) you will be trying to slide a collar locking two gears each rolling at different speeds, together.

The top shaft which gives you the fast, slow and reverse gears within each range (gear shift lever to the right side of the quadrants) has the synchronizers on it. They do a good job of stoping the grinding (or at least minimizing it) unless they're worn and you're trying to shift quickly.

Above I said something like 'just a synchronizer problem'. I don't mean to minimize that. Synchronizer repair/replacement is not cheap. Pay careful attention to when you experience gear crash and under what circumstances. They'll answer some questions. If you wind up in the transmission, would recommend you go through with a fine toothed comb. Repair, replace and adjust everything. Once done right, you're not likely to gbe back in there for a long time.

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twopop

11-10-2003 11:25:36




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 Re: 3020 questions in reply to Jim Andserson, 11-10-2003 07:06:23  
first,I would check the clutch return spring attached to the pedal and make sure it is pulling the pedal all the way back.then reset the freeplay to about 1/2 inch. then if the problem is still there I would BURN the clutch.(hook the tractor to something solid and then slip the clutch and get it hot)( not too hot)you may have something sticky on the clutch disc or flywheel.BTW.down where the clutch shaft goes thru the side of the clutch housing there is a grease zerk.this lubes the throwout bearing.cant help on carb.

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DON

11-10-2003 09:35:01




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 Re: 3020 questions in reply to Jim Andserson, 11-10-2003 07:06:23  
IF THE GEARS ARE RIPPING THEN THE SYNCRONISERS ARE WORN OUT. WILL NEED TO REPLACE THE SHIFTERS AS WELL. HOWEVER IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CLUTCH DISK IS DRAGGING ALSO, SO YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED A NEW CLUTCH PLATE. IF YOU HAVE A POT METAL CARB . REMOVE THE COVER ON THE REAR AND THERE YOU WILL FIND ANOTHER COVER REMOVE IT CAREFULLY AND YOU WILL SEE A DIAPHRAM. REPLACE IT. WHEN THE ENGINE BACKFIRES AND/OR OLD AGE THE DIAPHRAM WILL GET A HOLE IN IT AND SUCK GAS INTO THE INTAKE SIDE. I KNOW THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. HOPE THIS HELPS. DON

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Huckleberry

11-10-2003 07:26:25




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 Re: 3020 questions in reply to Jim Andserson, 11-10-2003 07:06:23  
I am not the best to answer your questions---but your grinding noise may be more of a problem with the synchro-range transmission than your clutch. I have 66 3020 diesel with s-r...it will not go into 3rd or 5th unless I first go to R1 or R2...then I get no grinding. Obviously I need some adjustment somewhere, but I don't think the procedure I use does any further harm. // For the carb...I had a 2520 gas...get a rebuild kit, they don't cost much...and clean it up real good...that will probably solve the problem. I think governor problems are not the usual on the 3020. Good luck, even if you have to invest in some major repair you'll still have one of the best tractors available on this planet.

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