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Jim

01-12-2001 07:45:24




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Question...if any of you were to able to buy any John Deere Ag. tractor (used), for your business in the 50 to 110 hp range, which model would you buy? We are looking for reliability, durability, and 2 wheel drive. Historically, what was the best John D. model in this range? You know, that one model that never seemed to let the farmer down! I appreciate your advice!




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Bozo

01-14-2001 17:01:00




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
I am assuming this tractor would get infrequent use and would suggest a 3020 or 4020 with as few hours as you can find. If this is no more than 25 acres a couple of times a year, I would suggest not buying a tractor at all. Rather, allow the tractor collectors in your area do it for you. At least some of the collectors I know would be almost willing to pay for the opportunity. I know of a couple of groups that either rents, or has bought land for "playing tractor".

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Lon

01-16-2001 15:26:10




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 Re: Re: advice needed in reply to Bozo, 01-14-2001 17:01:00  
Good idea. Our small JD club plowed 27 acres last fall, 15 alfalfa and 12 corn, in about 4 hours last fall. The big boys went over and played in the alfalfa, and the little tots started on the corn ground. It was amazing how fast the corn got done when the big guys came over to help. One five-bottom behind an 830 was turning over as much dirt as a B, a D, and a 50 together, and faster.

Our club is usually looking for 20 to 30 acres to plow in the spring and in the fall.

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Racecarl

01-14-2001 15:59:49




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
If price was no object, get a 6000 or 7000 series tractor. They have far and away the best hydraulics, engines, powertrain, and operator stations of ANYTHING on the market today. A 4240 would also be a good choice. Check the oil pump drive gear lash (behind the tach drive housing, right side of motor). More that 3 degrees deflection means new camshaft and drive gear. Check the sump screen for metal and brake material. Make sure the final drives have NO slack. If the former owner used COOP transmission oil (green stuff), I would reconsider that tractor. I work on Deeres for a living and have put in a lot of ring and pinions, hydraulic pumps, and SCV overhauls due to wear, while a tractor using John Deere HyGard with the same or more hours will be in good shape inside.

If you are looking for a loader tractor, keep in mind that the 20 series Synchro-Range tractors may not be the best choice for this application UMLESS the hydraulic system is in good shape. The charge pump only turns on these tractors when the clutch is released. A small high pressure to sump leak inside the tractor will quickly drain the oil cooler and reservoir for the main hydraulic pump, leaving you with no hydraulics, steering, or brakes. The leaks are not a big problem with the clutch out other that heating the oil, but little leaks are a big deal with the clutch pushed in. Small internal leaks are sometimes hard to find and correct. Powershift tractors are not affected by this problem.

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Pat TX

01-15-2001 10:25:26




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 Re: Re: advice needed in reply to Racecarl, 01-14-2001 15:59:49  
My 69' 4020 Syncro hydraulic system also has high pressure internal leaks. I have learned to live with it. When I have to back up, or do any work shifting gears, the hydraulics bleeds off after a while, first the 3-pt, then the PTO disengages.
Are there any trouble shooting guides to pinpoint the problem or problems?
Filter is new.
Hydraulics also bleed off slowly when pulling an implement.

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JD70Jim

01-14-2001 15:33:46




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
For as few acres as you say, a 3020D should be more than enough. A 3020 would probably be some $2000 cheaper than a similar 4020.



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Mr.Deere

01-14-2001 15:06:07




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
A nice 4020 Diesel is your best bet. For a nice
one expect to pay $10,000+ but it's worth it if
you plan to keep it. If you want something with a
cab a 4240 is a good tractor at 115HP. We have
owned one for fifteen years that we use to spray
and pull the corn planter with and has never given
us a momemts trouble.



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Poppin' Johnny

01-13-2001 07:22:19




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
You could try a 730 or 830 diesel, but not sure if they'll reach as high as you need them to.



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RayE

01-12-2001 18:07:32




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
JD 4240,nice cab,last forever if taken care of.



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luckydog

01-12-2001 13:17:29




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
Jim-- I believe I would buy a JD4320. This is a turbo-charged 4020. Can buy one for 9 to $12000. Go to any JD service dept and they will all tell you they are the least worked on tractor that JD made. The one I have has been with me for 12yrs, and I use it dayly (used it for a tractor 2 times it size for many years). Dependable and seems like the right tractor for the job. luckydog



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Jim

01-12-2001 11:21:32




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
The tractor will be used for prairie restoration work on various sized tracts of land. The most common sizes from 2 to 25 acres. The tractor will mainly plow and disc to prep for the seeding.



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Karl Bader

01-12-2001 08:38:09




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 Re: advice needed in reply to Jim, 01-12-2001 07:45:24  
What is it being used for?



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