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jm

08-07-2001 00:21:28




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I am in need of advice on painting my old JD. The surface has been sandblasted and is ready to paint but I do not have a decent compressor and spray gun (all I have is a little 1HP with no tank). Understand I have not put a great amount of money into this restoration, so I am not that concerned with doing the perfect paint job. I just want to protect it with a good primer (any suggestions?) and get a decent coat of paint on it. Should I use spray paint or would my tractor look terrible if I did that. Or is there a cheap gun that would work with my compressor that might make things go a little quicker and look a little better. Thanks.

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Jason

08-07-2001 16:29:19




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
If you use a good primer and good prep work, you can paint all the cast iron(basically everything but the sheet metal)with a brush don't need to thin it just use a fair amount of paint and kind dob it on lightly with a soft brush then smooth it out some until the brush strokes are gone. then paint the sheet metal with a spray can. i have painted at about fifteen tractors i have restored this way and only the best "correct police will notice". if you are going to keep it closed up except for weekends, shows etc. you could even use the bps paint from tsc. these people claim it fades bad and will if it sits in the sun all the time but, like you said you have not put alot of money into this tractor and it is important that you are happy with it not the "correct police" good luck and have fun with you tractor

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Alan Farley

08-09-2001 10:33:13




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 Re: Re: Need advice on painting in reply to Jason, 08-07-2001 16:29:19  
If you do go with using spray cans, buy a "can-gun" it slips on the top of the spray can and gives you a trigger like a regular quart sprayer. Makes it a lot easier. They are $3 a Wal-Mart. I recently restored my 10' JD disk and used Rust-oleum JD green. Real satisfied with it. I used a brush but it's harder to tell since most of the metal is pitted (and I have it down to a fine art). It's $26 a gallon but worth it. TSC was out of "Rust-oleum" JD yellow so I had to use BPS(TSC's) in spray cans for the rims etc. Very little gloss, won't use it again. Good Luck.

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RoyB

08-07-2001 09:46:15




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
There are places to rent air compressors and you should rent one.Borrow a gun from someone and for goodness sake buy JOHN DEERE paint.Other paints FADE,or turn blue.It lays on great and with a little hardner it will shine like a new dollar.Good luck.



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Andy

08-07-2001 08:57:13




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
you cannot get a quality job without a gun.don't paint it with a brush unless you use straight enamel. Also you need a self-etching primer called Variprime.made by Dupont.you should invest in a compressor and gun...you wont regret it!.good luck



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andy b.

08-07-2001 08:56:16




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
i'm not a tractor expert (yet), but i've done my share of painting. missery makes a bunch of good points. get some spray cans of decent primer and start there. since you have to sand the primer, you can start learning how to put the paint on from spray cans by practicing with the primer. if it runs, or doesn't come out smooth, just sand it a little and re-try it. once you get the hang of it (hopefully by the time you have everything primered), get a few cans of spray paint from the JD dealer. i've used many cans of their spray paint to touch up mower decks and other small parts, and it seems to be a decent quality. you should practice a bit with the actual paint on a surface other than the tractor. if you HAVE to practice on the tractor, you can always wet sand it down to clear up your mistakes.

a couple of tips....
read any info you can find about spraying paint. it tells you what order to paint (top to bottom, up and down, etc.) and how to hold the spray gun. these same tips apply when using a can of spray paint.
also, don't be afraid to put too much paint on. i remember the first time i tried to paint something with spray cans and i kept putting on real light coats. you need to put it on heavy enough that it looks smooth and shiny, but not so heavy it runs (this is where the practice helps). it's a lot easier to do this with the constant flow of a real spray gun, but you can do it with cans if you remember to not put too light a coat on.

okay, maybe the spray cans won't look quite as good as a real air gun finish, but it can look damn good if you take your time.

i do agree though that this may be a perfect excuse to get an air compressor.

andy b.

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missery

08-07-2001 07:27:40




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
the secrete is in the prep work you do first.if you have it all sandblasted down to bare metal,go over it with 80 grit sand paperwith an orbital sander.finish up with 180 grit paper.go to napa and get seif etchin primer (7220). this stuff is the best for bare metal. lay it on thin,it likes to run. napa will custom mix your JD paint,(99l 3737) in a spray bomb. cost about nine bucks a can.you will need a few. this paint is acrylic enamal. about the best you can put on your tractor.this would be a good alternative to your air problem.you can go to a JD dealer and buy spray cans of paint their too. what ever you do it will be your choice. i would strongly suggest to use a good primer.good luck. you have a nice tractor. Dave.

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Propane

08-07-2001 06:52:45




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
Set the tractor outside away from everything. Get the LP take from your grill. Hook up a preasure regulator and go painting.



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hay

08-07-2001 06:25:33




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
a good air compressor and decent spray gun are almost essential for a really good looking job, however you could paint it with a high gloss equipment enamel and a brush. you will get some brush marks. it will be a mess to do and up close it will not look perfect, but from a distance it should look ok. thin your paint slightly and keep overlapping the paint to make it flow in better.



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lc

08-07-2001 06:14:36




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
I have used some of both. Sounds like a good excuse to me for going and buying a compressor with tank of some kind. Useful for other things as well. You won't be sorry.



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BMeyer

08-07-2001 02:40:38




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
You could buy one of those low dollar spray guns at Lowe's or Sear's, but you won't have enough air pressure. Spray cans might be your best bet. Take a look at my website....the 40U was sprayed from cans. It looks good but it stays sheltered all the time. It wouldn't hold up long if left outside.

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Fix it

08-07-2001 01:14:16




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 Re: Need advice on painting in reply to jm, 08-07-2001 00:21:28  
Do you live in the north-cold , South-warm , or by the coast-salty air. ?. What is the Mod # of your tractor.



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jm

08-07-2001 01:21:40




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 Re: Re: Need advice on painting in reply to Fix it, 08-07-2001 01:14:16  
Central Mississippi - hot and humid. 1958 JD 420T.



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