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Neckbone

08-09-2001 21:14:37




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Ok here goes an older friend of mine is going to give me an old tractor he has. He said it belonged to his father and wants it to go to a good home. He says it is a 1918 DEERE not a John Deere just a Deere and Co. He has told me it is a single cylinder diesel and it is not locked up. I am going over there this weekend (200 miles) away. Does anyone know anything about this tractor. I have a 1951 B and a 1949 Mt but this is a new one on me.

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Jack Yates

08-11-2001 18:45:27




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
Just to make sure I've got this right: Someone is going to *give* you a tractor built in 1918? The first rule is "Get the tractor, every piece and get it home" because if it was built in '18 there aren't many of them left.

It sounds to me as though you may have an IH Mogul if it has only one cylinder; the Lanz Bulldog didn't come along 'til much later and was built in Europe. The current owner might also be mistaken in it being a diesel if it burns distillate or kerosene, which most all tractors did back then, though there *were* diesel engines as early as '18, mostly in stationary use. Remember, though, that Deere has been accused of "Putting the hit-and-miss engine on wheels" which is as much of an accurate description as it is a chuckle. People look at my 50 and becaseu they can only see one spark plug they think it only has one cylinder. your friend's tractor may have two and he doesn't know it.

Whatever it is, take it and bless the man that gives it to you.

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rev JJ

08-11-2001 16:44:26




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
What the tag may actually say is McCormick-Deering &Company,IHC. They did build a one cylinder tractor at that time that was painted green. If the tractor is as you describe it, it is in all likelihood an 8-16 or 10-20 IHC Mogul tractor. If that is what it is, you might talk me into swapping you a late 29 D for it that has never been used for anything but belt work.



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Dick (IL)

08-11-2001 11:51:42




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
Take some pictures and write down all markings you can find, then post them here.



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Richard

08-11-2001 05:06:43




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
OK, about the Dain tractor, only two are known to be in existance. So if its a Dain, its worth would be like a dream come true lottery ticket. The Dain was a all wheel drive two in the front and one rear wheel machine, and not a diesel. The only one cylinder diesel in Deere history was some German Lanze models in production when Deere bought out Lanze in the 50's.My guess is that you are goin to look at an orphan. In 1918 there was alot more manufacturers out there that probably made this tractor. The history states that IHC marketed the first diesel ag tractor in the 1920's

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Buckeye al

08-10-2001 14:38:37




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
The price is right. Believe I'd grab it in a heart beat!



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gary

08-10-2001 06:37:04




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 Re: 1918 Deere in reply to Neckbone, 08-09-2001 21:14:37  
Neckbone,

I don't know if this will shed any light on your question or not, but this is some information I found recently that was an answer to the question "What was the first John Deere Tractor"?
Here goes:
"That question has THREE possible answers! In 1912, Deere & Co. began to develop prototypes for their own tractor. The only one that ever went into production (in 1918) is now known as the "Dain" tractor. It is named after Joseph Dain, the engineer who designed it. Only 50 to 100 or so "Dain" tractors were built and sold, BECAUSE.... That same year the Deere Company bought the Waterloo Engine Company, in order to obtain a factory in which to build tractors. The Waterloo Engine Company was already manufacturing the Waterloo Boy tractor that it had introduced in 1913. The "Dain" project was halted for two reasons: Joseph Dain had died, and the Waterloo Boy tractor was less expensive to build than the "Dain". Deere & Co. elected to continue manufacturing the Waterloo Boy tractors until 1924. This gave them plenty of time to develop a completely NEW tractor of their own. It was called the Model D. and it was introduced in late 1923 as a 1924 Model."
Sounds like your old friend may be giving you a pretty valuable piece of equipment!
gary

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One cylinder diesel?

08-10-2001 13:20:03




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 Re: Re: 1918 Deere in reply to gary, 08-10-2001 06:37:04  
Sounds fishy to me. Maybe it's a stationary engine. Never heard of a one cylinder diesel tractor by John Deere.



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gary

08-10-2001 20:59:36




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 Re: Re: Re: 1918 Deere in reply to One cylinder diesel?, 08-10-2001 13:20:03  
I missed that part, I don't think there was a lot of diesel activity at that time, you are right this does sound a little fishy
gary



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