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John Logsdon

11-30-2001 19:06:50




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I farmed with a 720D and loved it's power. I now want to buy either another one or get a 730D. The prices of these two models are higher than their LP counterparts. I want to pull some at our local pulls, nothing real serious but I want to win. I wonder if the diesels will pull that much more than the LP. I know that the torque doesn't fall off as quickly on the diesel as LP allowing it to pull near full power at a slower speed. I would think the sled could be pulled further if the pulling speed was lower. This would seem to favor the diesel. Can someone comment on this?

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Tony M

12-01-2001 19:15:46




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 Re: Stock puller in reply to John Logsdon, 11-30-2001 19:06:50  
I guess there are at least three of us idiots around that prefer to keep a tractor just stock and never win. I have a 720D standard that I use to farm with also (among other two cylinders). It is strictly stock, and even has mismatched rear tires. A few months ago I entered a for-fun pull at a show, along with other super pullers and those that would barely run. There was one 720 LP row crop, a 720 gas row crop that I know were stock. I outpulled the other 720's by at least 20 feet, and wound up second overall even with the real pullers. Either the standard configuration, or the diesel engine was a big advantage.

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john logsdon

12-02-2001 10:35:20




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 Re: Re: Stock puller in reply to Tony M, 12-01-2001 19:15:46  
Tony, thanks for your comment. I had a hand driving my 4010 diesel with a 3-16" spinner moldboard and I had the 720D equipped the same but with an Oliver plow. I fell in the furrow behind the 4010 and a half mile later it was only about 6 tractor lengths behind. I was working it a little harder than I normally did, but it made a great showing and surprized me. The man I brought the 720 from had a 4010 also and said it would pull with the 4010. I didn't believe it then but had to try it. I think alot of people don't appreciate the 720D for the power it really had and it put all the power onto the rear wheels unlike the 4010. Don't get me wrong, I'm not running the 4010 down, they are my all time favorite tractors, (I have one now). I'm going to hold our for a diesel, I like the way they sound also.

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The Dukester

12-01-2001 08:37:17




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 Re: Stock puller in reply to John Logsdon, 11-30-2001 19:06:50  
Friend, if you pull and want to win, that's serious! See, most everyone who pulls wants to win, some win with astounding regularity, some(like me), hardly ever win. As I look at my pretty, restored, but strictly stock tractors, I see things that indicate I'm not serious enough to win. My tires aren't cut, my weights are just on the wheels, my front wheels are stock size, (not "pee-wee's), I don't have chrome exhaust stacks, and my engines don't rev-up like the serious puller's do, and my fuel is just pump gas, not that funny smelling stuff the serious guys have. But, hey, in little local pulls like we have at heritage days and our club pulls, I do okay, I'm serious enough, I guess.

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Joel Williams

12-02-2001 18:13:46




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 Re: Re: Stock puller in reply to The Dukester, 12-01-2001 08:37:17  
Finally I read an honest post. Sure, everybody wants to win but how much are you willing to cheat to win. I started this hobby because I like to see what the antique machines can do. A little driving skill can go a long way but if you are turning half again the rpm's and burning rocket fuel in the cylinders, where's the fun in antique pulling. Some guys I have pulled against are about as stock as Nascar cars are. Any one can cheat and win. I did out pull a hot Farmall 400 with my stock R model diesel. He was hot then but oh well! If you search under my name in the tractor photo section, you can see all eight of mine including the one where I out pulled the 400. ALL STOCK!!!!!

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John Logsdon

12-01-2001 18:14:40




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 Re: Re: Stock puller in reply to The Dukester, 12-01-2001 08:37:17  
Dukester, I know you are telling me right. I'm not serious enough to cut the tires etc; that would be starting down the slippery slope and would change the whole thing for me. I will just have to do it the best I can on a stock basis. I'm glad to know there are guys out there like you. However I can really enjoy seeing the tractor that has the right stuff working. A tractor like that challenges it's driver a lot more. It is so fine seeing the two of them working together .

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