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Stripped thread in A head drain

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Jerry S

12-04-2001 09:36:30




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I inherited this '50 A and the threads are nearly gone in this drain hole. I thought about a rubber expansion plug but I am sure there has to be someone else who has dealt with this. Do I need to remove the head and have a larger hole machined and tapped? Someone suggested a helicoil insert but I can't find one that big. There was an earlier post about thread inserts but I haven't heard of them. Where can I find such an insert? Is there such a thing as an oversize plug that someone makes for such an event? The original plug is kind of cone shaped from the years of wear. Some threads remain at the top. Any advice is certainly appreciated. I don't have a lot of special tools, just the shade tree variety and didn't want to go buying a bunch of stuff that won't work.
Thanks for your help.

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kh

12-05-2001 19:36:39




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 Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to Jerry S, 12-04-2001 09:36:30  
Had that problem with Dad's AR. The threads in the head were pretty bad. Cleaned the threads with a tap but then the new plug would screw right thru. Instead of a plug we used a short nipple and a cap. The tapered thread on the nipple has a larger diameter than a plug so it screwed in tight with a little pipe dope.



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Jerry S

12-05-2001 10:24:40




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 Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to Jerry S, 12-04-2001 09:36:30  
Thanks for the suggestions. I think there might be a way I could get enough thread at the top to hold it so long as I got them good and clean. If that won't work, I will have to try something else. I want to keep the material that will be left from rusting further so teflon tape is a must. I also considered using a short length of pipe and putting a cap on that so draining the antifreeze won't mean bothering the head threads, only the pipe and cap. Might use a stainless pipe to make things last longer.

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Frank-in-Tallahassee

12-04-2001 19:15:06




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 Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to Jerry S, 12-04-2001 09:36:30  
You can re-tap that hole using a tapered pipe tap. Your friendly plummer might have one in the size you need that he'd loan you.

They're not cheap, but not all that pricey, either. I just stopped by the McMaster-Carr page, and you can buy a 1 1/2'' carbon steel tapered tap for around $38.00. Bigger is higher, smaller is less.

If you just tapped about one new turn, it would probably catch up enough of the taper to make new threads most of the way (depending on the angle of taper).

Then you might have to install a plug that is shortened so that it has the affect of being a bigger diameter at the starting end so that it doesn't get too far into the water jacket.

Then again, if you had a friend with a lathe, you could make an oversized plug, have your friendly plumber thread that plug on his pipe threading machine (or thread it on the lathe), install it in your newly cut threads, and it ought to last another 50 years (and probably more, since you'll protect it with some teflon tape).

Or you could JB weld a 5/8" hex nut in there, and use a cut-off hex bolt (brass would be nice !)with a paper gasket on it as the plug, and use some heat to remove the JB weld and nut if you ever wanted to fix it more proper in the future.

Lots of options...

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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KWB

12-04-2001 17:16:45




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 Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to Jerry S, 12-04-2001 09:36:30  
I had a B with a similar problem. I cleaned the drain hole with a wire brush and drill. I got a new plug, these are standard pipe thread plugs. I was able to find the right size for a B at a hardware store. I got enough bite on the old threads to hold the plug in place, I put plenty of gasket sealer on to keep it from leaking. Worth a try.



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BMAN

12-04-2001 10:00:31




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 Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to Jerry S, 12-04-2001 09:36:30  
Jerry- I have a 1939 BN that has the same problem. I went to a hardware store and bought the correct size cork plug. After pushing firmly into the drain hole it stopped leaking. You can later remove the cork plug but after time it's a little hard to remove with out destroying it. However, another plug is less than a dollar I think.



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Allen

12-05-2001 14:26:36




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 Re: Re: Stripped thread in A head drain in reply to BMAN, 12-04-2001 10:00:31  
Ita either 1/2 or 3/4 thread run a pipe tap in the hole,thenget a new pipe plug use some sealer on it tighten up snug.



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