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Steve in Tennes

05-01-2002 19:03:16




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Was the JD 2010 the lemon that a lot of people make it out to be, or perhaps I have one that has led an abused life? I have read several articles and many posts in this forum that say that the 2010 was the worst creation that John Deere ever turned out. I bought a 1963 2010 rowcrop in 1994 from a boy that had spent all he could afford on it and decided to try something else. I hadn't heard the history of the 2010 and snatched what I believed to be a bargain. The tractor had MANY new parts on it including new cylinder head, carburetor (it's a gas burner), ignition switch, and 3 out of 4 new tires. He also donated a large collection of photocopied pages of the official John Deere repair manual that he had accumulated. That should have been a warning. Since then, I have repaired the PTO linkage once, fought several hydraulic problems, and will now have to overhaul the power steering motor because it leaks oil out faster than I can pour it back in. Are all these tractors this trouble prone or has mine just led a rough life? Any one else had similar experiences?

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DON

05-02-2002 06:47:21




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 Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to Steve in Tennessee, 05-01-2002 19:03:16  
WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS TYPICAL 2010.



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Mark A

05-02-2002 06:45:44




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 Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to Steve in Tennessee, 05-01-2002 19:03:16  
The diesel tractors in the 2010 series were the worst. The way I understand, they were the first 4 cylinder diesel designs JD had, and it took them a while to get them right. We had a 2010 diesel, and had mostly problems with the engine, starting and getting to run right. But we also "broke" the transmission housing cover once, under the seat. Evidently a valve stuck open and pressure built up and popped the housing. My brother was a "JD mechanic", and didnt want to tackle it, but we had a local mechanic fix it for us. We got rid of it shortly after that and got a JD 630 propane. Better tractor, in my opinion, than the 2010. But I always liked the 2010 though, and felt a gas would be better than a diesel. In fact, if I found a 2010 gas reasonably priced in my area, I would probably try to get it, to use together with my JD 3020 for making hay. Just my opinion.

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JD70Jim

05-02-2002 13:04:19




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 Re: Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to Mark A, 05-02-2002 06:45:44  
If I might point out, the 1010 and 2010 engines were NOT the first 4 cyl John Deere engines, the 3010 ALSO used a 4 cylinder engine and it had none of the faults that the Dubuque engines had. I think you will find that most if not all of the problems associated with 1010 and 2010 engines stem from the STUPID sleeve and deck design used. Deere had MANY problems with this system, most of which involved the deck "warping" slightly, making it near impossible to get the engine to "seat" and not leak coolant and oil into places where it shouldn't leak.

Also, the Dubuque tractors didn't get the same degree of design engineering that the more important 3010 and 4010 tractors got, hence the sorry reputation.

Interesting that Deere is also the only place to get a new "Sleeve and Deck" replacement , should you need one when overhauling. I guess that aftermarket suppliers don't think well enough of these tractors to make replacement parts for them.

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farmuse

05-02-2002 08:28:39




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 Re: Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to Mark A, 05-02-2002 06:45:44  
We use to have a 2010 gas tractor when we still ran a dairy it would start good and run good as long as the temp outside wouldnot get over about 75 degrees. Once that happened it would vapor lock bad and would not run good. Once you cut it off then it would not start. Hydraulicas worked good. The worst part about it was the fact it would NOT pass the gas pump more than five or six hours at a time.

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Rick Sharp

12-31-2003 22:26:56




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 Re: Re: Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to farmuse, 05-02-2002 08:28:39  
I don't know about everyone else but my 2010 is 39 years old, 65 model, and I am always welding or tightening something, but Jeez what do you expect for a 39 year old tractor, I've converted it to an alternator negative ground, added tons of lights, rear hydraulics to support a 3-point backhoe attachment, mine is the industrial loader, sun bonnet, analog gauges, rebuilt the front end, replaced the left spindal, front tires, seat, loader cutting edge, tons of welding on the bucket, rewired it and at the rate it's burning/leaking oil I'll be overhauling it soon, also fabricated a heavy duty down link attachment to avoid breaking the original, but I have a functional backhoe with less than a $4000 investment, so far, I've loaded over 100 dump trucks, dug my septic, road drainage ditchs, built a creek crossing, box bladed, built roads, etc. and so far every time I turn the key it always busts off. Beats the crap out of paying $20,000 for a Kubota I would just trash out.

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Dan

05-01-2002 20:58:44




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 Re: 2010 Nightmares in reply to Steve in Tennessee, 05-01-2002 19:03:16  
I think generally the 2010s had lots of problems. As I understand it when JD went to the New Generation of tractors, the 4010 and 3010 got the attention, 2010 and 1010 were sort of combinations of old and new. Think engine wise the diesels had more problems than gas. Haven't heard of a lot of hydraulic problems but have heeeerd they were hard to work on when there was a problem. May also be that the one you have has been "rode hard and put up wet" as they are getting some years on them. When running good they were a nice sized tractor with some good features for the size.

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