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Deere Heaven

11-27-2002 06:47:34

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I have a 35' B I am restoring, I have done other B's but not one this early. I was told they did not come with a tempature guage, and a few other parts differ form the later unstyled B's. What all do I need to make this tractor exactly like it was from the factory? Now do people put temp. guages on them anyways? Thanks, Brian Nielsen

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Rudy in TX

11-27-2002 18:09:32

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Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-27-2002 06:47:34

deere heaven, my 36 B has the bracket and the temp gauge on it and it looks factory installed. Looks like it could be put on one fairly easy. I had my block bored and sleeved back to standard and used my same pistons with new rings. I have good compression and it runs real good. the shop charged $475.00 and the rings cost $45.00 from JD.I saw your followup to the post about boring

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Deere Heaven

11-27-2002 11:30:20

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Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-27-2002 06:47:34

Hey, John I have a model B production regestery book at the house. I will look up your tractor and post it tonight. Brian

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John

11-27-2002 10:56:11

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Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-27-2002 06:47:34

My 1936 B-n has ser# 14925. My father bought it used at an auction in 1937 in Ct. with what I`m assuming is the factory installed temperature guage. Worked well until last year. Just replaced it this past summer. Like the previous post said somebody is confused about the upgrading serial number. While I`m posting here, can someone here look up my Serial number? I`d appreciate its shipping address and delivery date. Thankyou, John

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Deere Heaven

11-28-2002 08:10:33

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Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to John, 11-27-2002 10:56:11

Hey John, your serial # tells me that your tractor is a BN built on 01/10/1936 shiped out on 01/17/1936 to the Syracuse,NY branch house, Then to Newport,RI. That is all it tells me Thanks, Brian

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gwh

11-28-2002 08:52:33

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Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-28-2002 08:10:33

And it came with powerlift #4170

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John

11-28-2002 08:18:31

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Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-28-2002 08:10:33

Thanks Brian. That confirms the front end is original to the tractor. I was kind wondering as my dad owned 3 b`s and said some front ends were swapped about thru the years. At least he kept his first pretty much original. Thank you for your efforts. If I can be of help to you, dont be bashful. Please ask. John

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Bguy

11-27-2002 08:17:27

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Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-27-2002 06:47:34

Brian, Last year I was trying to figure out the same thing. The good people on this board helped me a bunch and the archives is a treasure trove of JD restoration info. The 35 B did not have a temp gauge when it came from the factory (the original upper water pipe casting did not have the temp gauge fitting for it until SN 42201) but a lot of people put them on and there's nothing wrong with that as they are a handy item. You can get the serial number researched and that might tell you something about what was on it when it was new and the parts book can guide you a lot by indicating what parts and options fit what serial number range of tractors. Also some of the magazines have vintage pictures that give clues as to how they looked, what was available and how they were set up back then. I also wanted my 35 B to look as it might have looked the day it was delivered only with a better paint job. This was my first restoration and it took me awhile to figure some things out (which mag came on them?, why do some have different trans covers? etc). Below is a link to a site showing pics of my B during and after being gone thru.

My B

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gwh

11-27-2002 09:48:47

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Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Bguy, 11-27-2002 08:17:27

Bguy, You better check again,true the '35 B's did not come with a temp. gauge, but early in '36 they did at about SN12743. At SN42000 the front support was made longer along w/ fan and steering shafts and the lower and upper water pipes Hood and fuel tank(hence the term long frame. Also your tractor looks very nice what SN is it? Also maybe Brian may want to post his SN , he may get some more help from the board. gwh

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Deere heaven

11-27-2002 11:21:54

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Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to gwh, 11-27-2002 09:48:47

My S.R.# is 9054. I have a B registery book and know that much, I can look up yor tractor JOHN what is your S.R.# ? I need specific details, I have found out that there were two diffrent radiator screens, and two seat pedastools. I am looking for specific info on things like that. I think I will put the temp guage on, like a later B and act like it was a upgrade, I feal that is important. Thanks for the help, Brian P.S. Nice pictures Scott

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John

11-28-2002 03:00:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere heaven, 11-27-2002 11:21:54

DEERE HEAVEN My tractors serial number is B14925. I looked thru the manual that came with it in 37 for some details of the temperature gauge and found a operators eye view of the controls. No temp gauge, just oil pressure. That only proves I have an early manual and the tractor was manufactured after temp gauges were factory installed. The 12,000 something ser. number seen in a previous post is probably correct.

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BMAN

11-27-2002 14:14:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere heaven, 11-27-2002 11:21:54

The 35 B's that had a temp gauge added used a special bracket that bolted to the crankcase cover.

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Deere Heaven

11-27-2002 14:28:03

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to BMAN, 11-27-2002 14:14:36

Thanks, Now the big question is where can I find a picture and a part number stating this is correct? ThankS, Brian

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JDB

11-27-2002 17:26:58

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to Deere Heaven, 11-27-2002 14:28:03

The part # for the heat indicator bracket is A1284R

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Seamo

11-27-2002 21:11:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to JDB, 11-27-2002 17:26:58

That is the same bracket used on the early "A"

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Bguy

11-27-2002 11:08:55

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Re: Re: Re: 1935 Unstyled B questions in reply to gwh, 11-27-2002 09:48:47

gwh, Thanks. My B's SN is 7125. 42200 is where my parts book says the change was made on the water pipe. Part # AB318R is shown as used on the B until SN #42201 when #AB1255R was used. The parts book (CD actually) that I am using does not show the fitting for the temp gauge on the earlier part but it could have been added and the change not noted in the book's pic as the parts are compatible. It does show a heat indicator gauge and bracket starting at SN 12743, so you are probably right. The water pipe pics in the book just don't accurately reflect this.

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