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Windows XP Update and ?

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John T

01-18-2003 10:31:03




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I know this is a tractor site, I spend time and enjoy the subject as much or more then the next guy, but we need our puter working to give tractor help right?? Anyway, I posted last week cuz I was upset having to reinstall some programs since I bought the Full Version of XP versus an upgrade. However, since I had upgraded all the way from Win 95 to 98 to ME, Im glad now that I totaly reinstaleld a clean full version of XP PLUS, it does work much better, noticeably faster responses on many programs, and is more stable and like no freeze ups YAYYYYY YYYYY. So now I have 1 more question which I bet someonme can help me with. To install XP Full Version, I had to rename my old windows and I later deleted it. But, I forgot to back up my favorites and a few other thigns within the old Windows Folder. In the old DOS days, there used to be a DOS command somethign like msundelete??? which allowed you to restore accidentally deleted files provided you hadnt run and shredding or re-formated or done any fdisk etc operations. QUESTION, as I havent formatted or f disk and ran any shredding programs, how using XP or DOS can I find or restore some of the old needed files I deleted (I also since emptied my Recycle Bin) I think Norton Utilities can do this, but I think I can without it????? ????? Ol John T

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Yuka Hakuneen

03-24-2004 15:32:04




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
I've met with this problem in the past. Well you're data is there. You should try to recover with getdata back from runtime. It's the best. However if this option failes ,too, you should try Flobo HDDDOC Recovery from http://www.floborecovery.dsoftscape.com. It's the best abd unique application in the field.

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DPOST

01-20-2003 07:25:27




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
John T;

Gee supose they will have discussion groups and people interested in using and mainting old computers with windows operating systems? Say 50 years from now.

Not up to speed on XP home yet. Will put that off as long as I can to save on both $ and frustration.

I will offer my dumb suggestion tough. Try the FIND command in the START menue. Look at the top level ( C:/ ). The XP installation may have keept your old favorites under a different path. If this is the case all you have to do is locate them.

Also you may have to move your self up to a system admisistrator level to be able to find everything or be at least sure that you are using the same windiows login and that you used previously. The newer windows systems will hide some of the files that belong to users with different logins. I think favorites are one one of the personalzed files that gets hidden between different windows users so each user can customize them they they want.

Try microsoft support if all else fails.

Good luck, At least you won't get your hands dirty.

D.D.Post

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Thanks Guys (John T)

01-19-2003 07:22:30




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
Thanks to all. I played with trial versions of some of the recovery programs etc. and I had already recovered most of my favorites and e mail addressses, so I dont have to mess much more with it now. However, all your help has sure pointed me to how to do it correct next time and to save those favorites and e mails and addresses (wasnt windows fault, I deleted the old windows myself) before I reinstall a new system. I still love the new XP, it faster, runs programs faster, is more stable and no lockups. Ol John T

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ChuckW

01-19-2003 05:17:20




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
I use a program called Goback for restoring the computer. There is a restore program built into XP but have found this one better.....



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Hans

01-18-2003 23:03:47




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
John T.,

Norton Utilities (depending on what version... some of the older versions have compatibility issues with Windows XP) should be able to do what you wanted if it were installed before you deleted the files.

I know you said the files were only your favorites and such, but if they're really important to you, there is a program called OnTrack Easy Recovery Pro. I've used this program to recover files from hard drives that have been formatted over and over and even with different file systems. It's kind of a last resort because of the price you'll need to pay for it, but if you did install it, it's important to avoid installing it on the same drive as the one you are trying to recover data from because of the same reason Clooney stated. You don't want to overwrite the areas on your hard drive that contained the files.

Good luck!

Hans

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01-18-2003 23:04:48




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 Re: Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to Hans, 01-18-2003 23:03:47  
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ChuckW

01-18-2003 16:24:02




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
John T. if you installed XP with the new file system, it should have reformatted your hard drive....I believe the file system is ntfs or something similar....you can install windows xp and still use the FAT 32 system....you can right click on mycomputer icon an see what file system you have installed...I would say if you retained the FAT 32 system those files are still there....good luck....



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Clooney

01-18-2003 11:22:33




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 Re: Windows XP Update and ? in reply to John T, 01-18-2003 10:31:03  
John, I'm not sure how you did a "clean" install without formatting your drive but that has nothing to do with your deletion problem. You probably still have lots of old windows fragments on your system if you didn't re-format.
~If you deleted the old windows folders while in XP & you are running the restore feature in XP you might be able to restore to a point before the deletion process & recover the files you deleted [if they haven't been written over].
~One of the problems you will face is if you have used the computer for a while after the deletion. When you delete a file or folder as you know it doesn't go away but the space it is in is opened up to be written over by later data. If you have used your computer very much [especially using large data programs, photo programs or music] there is a good chance some of your data is over-written. The time to recover deleted files is quick after deletion.
~I don't know of any built in DOS type restore programs in XT but there are some shareware & pay type programs out there. One of my co workers used a program from this site to bring back a lost picture so you might look here>Link
~If you find & restore those lost files, post the process for future reference. I'm still using the old Win98 at home as it is working flawlessly & my entire network is set up on Win 98. I haven't had a crash in years so for now have no need to change. I wish I could say the same for the Win 2000 we are using at work & on my laptop.....

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