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JD 2010 diesel good or bad ?

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Joe Hartman

01-03-2004 05:34:14




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I am looking at a 2010 that needs repair. I wanting help on the dependability of this particular diesel engine. Anyone have any experience with it, anyone know what other model tractor used same engine. I would appreciate any help. Thanks Joe




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Leroy

01-04-2004 07:44:58




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 Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Joe Hartman, 01-03-2004 05:34:14  
My Uncle had a 2010 diesel and it realy took a beating and kept on going; he was never any good at maintainance; with no major problems, I myself when I drove it thought it was an uncomfortable tractor to drive, it was a row crop utility, now the row crop is made different in the things that I thought were unconfortable and I liked those, I would like to have a 2010 row crop with wide front and a gas engine, I don't like a deisel to start with, but the gas engine is the same as on the 45 combines from 1960-63, the HC145G, and the engines from the later 45's with the HC165G is the same engine with more cub's, those gas engines were great, have 2 of the 145 and a 165 now

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Loren NC

01-03-2004 11:56:48




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 Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Joe Hartman, 01-03-2004 05:34:14  
I really like the thoroughness of the answer below. The only thing I can add is what my local J-D dealer told me when I was there looking for 1010 parts. He said the only J-D tractors worse than the 1010/2010 gas models were either one of them in a diesel version. He added all the same comments you will find below about parts availability or lack thereof.



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Stan - Florida

01-03-2004 12:09:46




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 Re: Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Loren NC, 01-03-2004 11:56:48  
And a famous but controversial writer for a John Deere collector's magazine once said, "If you've got a good one, you can't break it - if you've got a bad one, you can't fix it".

Stan



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Oops! Not a good sign!

01-03-2004 13:21:16




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Stan - Florida, 01-03-2004 12:09:46  
I happen to have a "little" problem with my 1010 gas right now. Seems cylinders 1 and 2 are firing but 3 and 4 are not. It blows smoke out the vent pipe and when I turn it off it diesels. Your quote that "...if you've got a bad one you can't fix it" isn't real encouraging to me! Hopefully I can find something simple wrong with the firing and can live with the smoking for a while. After all this is sort of a hobby farm tractor so it isn't like my livelihood depends on it running correctly.

Loren NC

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jdemaris

01-03-2004 18:39:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Oops! Not a good sign!, 01-03-2004 13:21:16  
I don't know if I've ever seen a 1010 gas engine that didn't smoke out the breather. I think it was engineered that way to let you know it's still alive. I'm 1/2 kidding. The 1010 gas engines seem to be very sensitive to excess side clearance in the top piston rings groove. Once they get past .005 or .006 clearance, the breather looks like the stack of a steam engine. If you ever pull it apart, easy and cheap way to fix is with ring-shims from Hastings. I just did an engine; the shims cost around $10 for all four pistons and the machining cost $35. You could also do what was popular with Ford Model A cars - put a little exhaust pipe on the breather and run it out of sight somewhere.

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Stan - Florida

01-03-2004 16:14:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Oops! Not a good sign!, 01-03-2004 13:21:16  
Well, even J.R. Hobbs can be wrong once in a while. Let's hope yours is not a "bad one" and only needs a little TLC, eh?

I think he was referring to those where everything goes wrong, don't you?

Good luck,

Stan



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jdemaris

01-03-2004 06:53:06




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 Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to Joe Hartman, 01-03-2004 05:34:14  
I was a Deere mechanic for over 30 years, and also own a couple of 1010s and 2010s, so I have some experience. I don't believe any other tractor used the engine, but there were a few combines and power units that did. I like them but still advise that most people to stay away from them unless you've got a big wallet and lots of expertise. Deere only made that series of engine for a short time (1010 and 2010). Subsequently, it did not benefit from updates and improvements like the next series engine did. Also did not benefit from available aftermarket parts. So, parts are very expensive, and some rare or unavailable. Early injection nozzles were obsolete two years after introduction. Some common parts like engine bearings are only available from Deere. That depends on vintage, since Deere did one major update on the engine - which reflects in one serial number break when looking up parts. The first machines, ca. 1960 can be a problem. Other things, like the engine not using individual sleeves can also be a problem. They come as a "sleeve deck" assembly, which is still available but very expensive. On the flip side, I rebuilt my diesel 2010 crawler 8,000 hours ago and it still runs fine. Many will tell you that's not possible. Regardless, the next series engine, like you'd find in a 450 crawler or a 2020/2520 ag. tractor, is a better engine and much cheaper to work on.

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Stan - Florida

01-03-2004 08:21:47




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 Re: Re: JD 2010 diesel good or bad ? in reply to jdemaris, 01-03-2004 06:53:06  
Very good, very objective response to a question that's asked on here frequently. Most answers seem to get emotional or are based on hearsay, but yours is not, I think.

Store this one away somewhere to respond to similar questions again in the future.

Stan



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