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1948 A won't stay running

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Merle

02-03-2003 15:34:11




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I have a 1948 A that only runs for a few seconds and dies like shutting the switch off. I have rebuilt the mag and carb. The mag was rebuilt twice and timed with the engine using the flywheel. It does have good spark. I have cleaned the fuel tank and carb out. When it runs it runs good, but dies after about 5 to 10 second. Has anyone had this problem or know how to fix it? Thanks for the help in advance.

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Rod MI

02-04-2003 10:42:46




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 Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Merle, 02-03-2003 15:34:11  
Sounds like a bad flout



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John T

02-03-2003 19:24:38




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 Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Merle, 02-03-2003 15:34:11  
Wow Merle, this may be a toughie. Im gonna have to believe you that the spark is good, but have you tested it like right after it dies and still has a spark????? ?? Even if the fuel were shut off, if the carb bowl is filled, it oughta run more than 5 to 10 seconds as you claim. After you do the clooney flow tests, let us know if you get a continual gas flow out the carbs drain cock????? ??

When it dies, is the governor opening up the throttle to try and rev it up???? Any smoke out the stack then????

Have you tried it with the air cleaner lower bowl removed????

On the mag, the only thing that comes to mind is the centrifugal mechanism that uses the spring and trip at less than 250 RPM, then goes to direct drive which would be like right shortly after start up. After it dies if you checked the spark at hand crank speeds, she would agian fire, but maybe not immediately after she reached 250 RPM, but that should only be like a few seconds, not 5 or 10 as you indicate.

Let us know what the flow test indicates and if you think it sparks at hand crank speeds but is not firing when she dies, and we will go from there.

Good Luck and God Bless, Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Merle

02-04-2003 10:06:10




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 Re: Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to John T, 02-03-2003 19:24:38  

The fuel flow test was good. Fuel ran from he carb in a steady stream for a few minutes so it is getting fuel. I needto know where the carb vent is someone was talking about yesterday. It does have a few puffs of black smoke as it is dieing. I will check the spark again and see if I come up with anything new.



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Mike J

02-03-2003 16:48:51




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 Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Merle, 02-03-2003 15:34:11  
I have a 1952 G that will sometimes do that it has the push pull switch tht looses contact just have to soak it up good with WD 40 then it works for quite awhile you might try wiggleing the the switch while its dieing



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lwollum

02-03-2003 16:43:18




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 Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Merle, 02-03-2003 15:34:11  
If all else fails, maybe restricted exhaust. Too much backpressure = no charge from carburetor. Especially if the symptom occurs quicker at high RPM.



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Clooney

02-03-2003 15:50:50




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 Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Merle, 02-03-2003 15:34:11  
Merle, you are either loosing spark or fuel. You say you have good spark so that leaves fuel. Open the drain plug on the bottom of the float bowl & see if you have a pencil sized stream for AT LEAST 30 seconds, if not find out why. Start at the fuel strainer at the carb & work your way back to the 3-way valve & tank strainer then the tank fitting itself. ~If you have a good fuel flow for 30 seconds you are either loosing spark [what mag are you running?], or you have internal carb problems like a plugged bowl vent or sticking float. Does running with the choke closed make any difference?

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merle

02-03-2003 15:56:05




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 Re: Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Clooney, 02-03-2003 15:50:50  

You can pull the choke out when it is trying to die but it makes no difference. It does't try to run at all.



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Clooney

02-03-2003 16:04:10




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 Re: Re: Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to merle, 02-03-2003 15:56:05  
Merle, do the fuel flow test & if it passes post back with the mag type you are running.



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merle

02-04-2003 10:09:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to Clooney, 02-03-2003 16:04:10  

I am running the original wico X mag.



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Clooney

02-04-2003 13:08:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1948 A won't stay running in reply to merle, 02-04-2003 10:09:15  
Merle, seeing as it seems to be getting plenty of fuel you might have a mag cutting out after a few seconds. While it could be the mag acting up after the impulse retracts I would think if that were the case it would start firing again as the RPM's dropped back down to impulse speed. Make sure you still have a spark after it quits, if not, you have mag trouble.

~If your mag has a wire hooked to the shorting post on the side of it, disconncet that wire to see if that wire is grounding somewhere & causing a shutdown.

~Probably the next thing to check is that the choke PLATE is actually opening, [only applies to a rod actuated choke with the tin cover with the spring inside it]. Just because the choke rod is in the off position & the external lever is in the off position doesn't mean the plate inside the carb is open. The choke lever pins have a habit of jumping over each other & not operating properly. [common problem]...If that choke stays on after starting it will stall in a hurry.

~You might want to see if the carb float bowl vent is open [in the main casting on the top of float bowl, should have a couple of baffles in the hole]. If you don't want to pull the carb back off you might try running it with a hose hooked to the bowl drain & run above the carb top [do not plug the hose] , if it stays running then suspect the bowl vent. If it still doesn't run your problem probably isn't bowl vent related.

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