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165 pto/clutch problems

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JohnB

04-22-2001 10:25:58




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I have a 165 diesel with multi-power. I have not been able to adjust the clutch so the pto stops. I have followed the procedures in the operators/maintenance manuals. Also, with a drive line (post hole digger) connected to the pto, I can not engage the pto. You can hear gears grinding together. If I disconnect the driveline or turn the tractor off, the pto will engage. With the drive line attatched and pto engaged prior to starting the tractor, it does dis-engage with no grinding. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Pete in NJ

10-08-2001 18:34:47




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 Re: 165 pto/clutch problems in reply to JohnB, 04-22-2001 10:25:58  
I had the same problem with my 165 a few months ago, the PTO would't engage without shutting off the tractor. I talked to the local tractor mechanic and he said you might need a new clutch, the next day the other clutch wouldn't work. When the he looked at it he said that the pins that held the 2 disks together had let go, he fixed it and now there is no problem.



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Jack in NB

04-23-2001 03:43:56




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 Re: 165 pto/clutch problems in reply to JohnB, 04-22-2001 10:25:58  
Hi John -

Sounds as if you have the two stage clutch and the ground speed/engine speed PTO, rather than an independent PTO. Same as mine.

The dragging PTO shift is usually caused by wear to the PTO clutch disk, and increasing clearance on the secondary pressure plate adjusting screws.

These are three 5/16" cap screws with lock nuts around the perimeter of the pressure plate, visible from the inspection hole under the flywheel housing.

Factory says .080 - .090" clearance on the heads of these. We find this doesn't always work, and reset to .055 - .060". This gap determines when you start to feel the increased pressure on the clutch pedal about half way down. Less gap moves pressure further up, allowing PTO clutch to fully release by the time the pedal hits bottom.

You need a really good wrench to adjust those screws - they are usually very stiff. A worn wrench will round the corners of one or more of the 6 bolts or lock nuts, so you cannot finish the adjustment.

Then you have to split the tractor.....

Hope this helps.

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