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165 PLANITARY SOUNDS LIKE A RUSTY HINGE

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P. RODGERS

06-27-2001 17:36:47




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MY 165 RIGHT REAR PLANITARY IS MAKING A SOUND LIKE A RUSTY HINGE, I CHECKED THE DIFFERENTIAL HOUSING AND IT IS FULL AND I CAN NOT SEE WHERE ANY OIL HAS LEAKED OUT. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT THE RIGHT WHEEL SEEMS TO BE LEANING OUT A LITTLE BIT. ANY IDEAS AS TO THE PROBLEM AND HOW TO CORRECT IT.




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Ken McWilliams

06-29-2001 09:46:25




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 Re: 165 PLANITARY SOUNDS LIKE A RUSTY HINGE in reply to P. RODGERS, 06-27-2001 17:36:47  
The quick way to find out if a problem exists with the outboard planetary assembly is to jack up that side and rotate the tire and push side ways to see if it will wobble and where the nois comes from.

I have a MF-50 industrial which is the industrial version of the Ag 165.

The planetary has its own lubrication. There should be a pipe plug on the inboard flange on the side facing the front.

Bearing pre-load is very important, because the axle stub is only about 8 inches long.

My tractor had about 10K hours and was used extremely hard with about a 2000# ballast in the rear and an extended boom for loading.

After I had adjusted the pre-load to get about .010 inch compression on the bearings, I discovered that the axle spline was worn in the female housing of the planetary. It wobbled so bad that the seal wouldn't keep in the oil.

All of them have inboard brakes, as Bill mentioned the later versions had wet brakes and the earlier versions had dry brakes. Mine is an early version.

In addition to rebuilding the engine, the front axle bushings, spindle bushings, and bearings were worn through the bearing materials. I had to reconstuct a lot of surfaces at the bearing locations.

Remarkably, the Perkins AD-204 had been started with ether too many times and not one compression ring was in one piece. Otherwise the engine showed very little wear as compared to the rest of the tractor.

Good luck.

Ken McWilliams
Dayton, OH

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kent tarou

03-13-2004 13:08:34




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 Re: Re: 165 PLANITARY SOUNDS LIKE A RUSTY HINGE in reply to Ken McWilliams, 06-29-2001 09:46:25  
I'm inquiring about the bolt or pin that you need to take out that lets you rotate the back tire in and out. I cann't seem to unlossin it and was wondering what to use?? Is it a screw in bolt or just a pin you knock out? If a screw what type of tool can you use to take it out?



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Bill B

06-27-2001 21:22:58




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 Re: 165 PLANITARY SOUNDS LIKE A RUSTY HINGE in reply to P. RODGERS, 06-27-2001 17:36:47  
Hi, If yours has dry brakes (my 70 has them) and the brake is left on it will make a squeeking noise. Bill



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