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Chip Nielsen

10-06-1998 07:39:00




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I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any difference, and I can start the engine only with the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral, otherwise the engine will not even turn over. In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the tractor will roll. With the engine running, and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one encountered anything like this before? Thanks Chip

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dennis

10-07-1998 12:36:21




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 Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to Chip Nielsen, 10-06-1998 07:39:00  
I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.

: I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: difference, and I can start the engine only with
: the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : encountered anything like this before? : Thanks : Chip
:

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chip nielsen

10-09-1998 09:15:18




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 Re: Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to dennis, 10-07-1998 12:36:21  
: I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.


: : I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: : difference, and I can start the engine only with
: : the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: : otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: : In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: : and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: : die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : : encountered anything like this before? : : Thanks : : Chip
: : dennis, since i have wrote of this problem i got into the gear box and messed around moving gears and the tractor did start in the nuetral and after
i put it into gear and let the clutch out the tractor did not die
this tractor has had the starter switch bypassed.
the high low i was referring to was a fairly good size lever that is located on the right side of the tractor below the steering column opposite the clutch pedal.
thanks for your interest dennis
chip

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dennis

10-13-1998 08:26:28




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 Re: Re: Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to chip nielsen, 10-09-1998 09:15:18  

: : I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.

: : : : I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: : : difference, and I can start the engine only with
: : : the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: : : otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: : : In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : : : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: : : and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: : : die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : : : encountered anything like this before? : : : Thanks : : : Chip
: : : : dennis,
: since i have wrote of this problem i got : into the gear box and messed around moving gears : and the tractor did start in the nuetral and after
: i put it into gear and let the clutch out the tractor did not die
: this tractor has had the starter switch bypassed.
: the high low i was referring to was a fairly good size : lever that is located on the right side of the tractor : below the steering column opposite the clutch pedal.
: thanks for your interest dennis
: chip

the only other lever I have on mine is on the left under the seat for the pto. the other answers posted sound like a posibility, a different transmission. I've never seen any though. But I've never seen lotsa stuff !!!

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Bill Brox

10-11-1998 14:52:45




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 Re: Re: Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to chip nielsen, 10-09-1998 09:15:18  
It sounds like the transmission has been in 2 gears at the same time. This may have caused the possibility of turning the engine when clutch was depressed, and also in neutral when clutch was not depressed.... was it this way?

I would say you have a worn shift lever system.

The high - low lever on the right side sounds like a 2 speed transmission to split up the other 4 speeds.
Some TE 20 and TO20/30 had a split transmission mounted. There were 2 types of them I think.

Bill Brox


: : I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.

: : : : I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: : : difference, and I can start the engine only with
: : : the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: : : otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: : : In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : : : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: : : and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: : : die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : : : encountered anything like this before? : : : Thanks : : : Chip
: : : : dennis,
: since i have wrote of this problem i got : into the gear box and messed around moving gears : and the tractor did start in the nuetral and after
: i put it into gear and let the clutch out the tractor did not die
: this tractor has had the starter switch bypassed.
: the high low i was referring to was a fairly good size : lever that is located on the right side of the tractor : below the steering column opposite the clutch pedal.
: thanks for your interest dennis
: chip

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Gerald

10-09-1998 10:12:05




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 Re: Re: Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to chip nielsen, 10-09-1998 09:15:18  
: : I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.

: : : : I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: : : difference, and I can start the engine only with
: : : the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: : : otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: : : In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : : : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: : : and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: : : die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : : : encountered anything like this before? : : : Thanks : : : Chip
: : : : dennis,
: since i have wrote of this problem i got : into the gear box and messed around moving gears : and the tractor did start in the nuetral and after
: i put it into gear and let the clutch out the tractor did not die
: this tractor has had the starter switch bypassed.
: the high low i was referring to was a fairly good size : lever that is located on the right side of the tractor : below the steering column opposite the clutch pedal.
: thanks for your interest dennis
: chip

I can't speak with authority on the TO-30 but many tractors (the MF-135 that I do have details on for example) was offered with several transmissions. The basic transmission was a three or four speed transmission with reverse. Then theres the 6 and 8 speed which are the 3 and 4 coupled to a second two speed with neutral transmission. That's the high low lever.

In my 135 the low range gets speeds from 1 to 5 mph, high gets speeds from 5 to 20 mph with the same 3 speed main transmission.

Then there's multipower. Its the same as IH's Torque Amplifier. Its a hydraulically clutched planetary transmission that splits the gears of the three speed, in my case giving 12 speeds forward 4 reverse. The 135 is interlocked so the starter won't work unless the high/low shifter is in neutral. Some tractors won't start unless that's true and the clutch pedal is pushed. Those are safety interlocks to try to keep the user from starting the tractor while in a vulnerable position against the front of a rear tire, precisely ready to be rolled over if the tractors starts in a forward gear.

To confuse further, the JD 4020's synchrorange actually shifts a 4 speed transmission coupled to a two speed plus reverse transmission to get 8 speeds forward and two reverse (some of the faster reverses are not recommended or allowed by the shifting cams in the console...

Gerald

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chip nielsen

10-09-1998 09:08:43




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 Re: Re: TO 30 Transmission in reply to dennis, 10-07-1998 12:36:21  
: I've had a to30 for about 5 years, used it regularly and dismantled most of it but I'm not sure what you mean by a high low. My tractor and the manual I have for TO's and TE's say that the starter switch is in the shift stick. It must be in neutral to move the stick to the forward and left to start the engine - makes no difference where the clutch is. Can't imagine what releasing the clutch in neutral has to do with the engine dying. Did someone by pass the stick starter switch or does this have something to do with the "high low"?? Please let me know if the high low means some sort of feature. I'd lke to know more about the Fergy myself.


: : I have a To 30 with a high low, if that makes any
: : difference, and I can start the engine only with
: : the clutch engaged,while it's in neutral,
: : otherwise the engine will not even turn over.
: : In neutral with the clutch dissengaged the : : tractor will roll. With the engine running,
: : and the shift lever in neutral the tractor will
: : die when the clutch is engaged. Has any one : : encountered anything like this before? : : Thanks : : Chip
: :

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