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C. T. in Oklaho

09-07-2001 17:21:27




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My FE35 Perkins 3cyl diesel has excellent pressure when I start working it. After an hour or so, it drops substantially. It is ok but not great. Then, the next day, it is excellent again. Oil looks ok, recently overhauled (new pistons, sleeves). Is this normal? Or should I be a little concerned about it. Thanks in advance for any help.
C. T.




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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-10-2001 18:28:58




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-07-2001 17:21:27  
This is a great site with a lot of nice folks. Thanks for the all of the information.



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Jack in NB

09-08-2001 04:37:46




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-07-2001 17:21:27  
Hi people -

The AD3 152(later 3 cylinder diesel) MF shop manual lists oil pressure 30-60 psi at normal operating speed and temperature, pump relief setting 50-65 psi. The gauges on ours seem to be 80 lb full scale.

The earlier A3 152, and the 4 cylinder A4 and AD4 203 are basically the same engines, so the same specs and behaviour seem to apply.

The decrease in pressure as the engine heats up occurs from increased bearing clearance, and probably oil pump wear. The decrease starts earlier than in some than others - whether due to my overhaul procedures, or lack of care adding oil (allowing some dirt in, certainly a possibility with loader frames) - I'm not sure.

We've had no problems with 40% gauge or better when working. I don't get concerned if I see 10% or more gauge at hot idle. Possibly I should, but, again, it hasn't caused problems so far. We don't generally let them idle for prolonged periods.

With the low cost of bearings and oil pump, we generally replace both at overhaul.

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thebigron

09-07-2001 19:53:20




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-07-2001 17:21:27  
This seems like a good discussion to jump into. I also, like C.T. start out cold engine at 100% oil pressure on my 1972 - 3 cylinder 135 perkins. Rebuilt app 850 hours ago. As temp creeps up to full operating temp of 180-190 the oil pressure creeps down to 50%. Tractor uses less than 1 pint every 100 hours. I've been assuming this is normal and if it ain't i'm in big trouble, huh?



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Richard C. Rose

09-07-2001 18:42:32




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 Re: Oil Pressure in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-07-2001 17:21:27  
C.T., it is normal for the oil pressure to drop some at heat, although you don't state how much.
Did the overhaul you mentioned include replacing bearing shells, oil pump and relief valve at all?
Regards Dicko



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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-07-2001 20:08:16




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 Re: Re: Oil Pressure in reply to Richard C. Rose, 09-07-2001 18:42:32  
Dicko, no, but everything checked out when we had it apart. The pressure drops close to the red on the guage at idle, but when I increase rpm's it is much better. I realize it will drop some, I am just concerned about the amount. I will just keep an eye on it. Thanks, C. T.



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Richard C. Rose

09-08-2001 01:58:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil Pressure in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-07-2001 20:08:16  
C.T. I'm not sure what your climate is like there our's is very forgiving.
There was quite some discussion about different grades of oils for different climates etc over on the Ford forum, might be worth you checking out.
Regards Dicko



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