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Am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems

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Chris Brown

06-25-2002 21:14:08




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The massey harris might be an OK tractor but the one I have is a thorn in my side.The tractor still needs a hydraulic pump I'm not worried about that,it's everything else thats got me upset.Everything I do with this tractor is wrong,everything I touch on it breaks.I figured I'd run the square baler ,not too hard of a job for a 50 hp tractor except I can't even hitch to it ,the power take off shaft is way too high for the U joints to turn,even with the bearing holder raised.I'm told I can't put a 3 point on it because the fronts too light and the rears too narrow,I'm also told I can't put a loader on it the fronts too weak..What's it good for? I don't mean to run down the massey harris line ,just this one. what CAN this tractor do?one person called it a 44 special and another called it a 44 standard,I don't really know ,the hood says special. Has anybody had any similar expierence. thank you all

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bob

06-27-2002 18:14:34




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 Re: am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems in reply to Chris Brown, 06-25-2002 21:14:08  
Chris there are two different P T O heights on my special I have the high one and 444 has low one. I have hooked mower up to special with no problem. Have put loaders on both .Work good but have trouble without power steering on special. okay on snow I like mine better than int due to gear ratio. my 444 has 3 point to hanl round bales would like wide front.



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BlueLite

06-26-2002 17:11:39




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 Re: am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems in reply to Chris Brown, 06-25-2002 21:14:08  
When designing the hitch system on my 30 I noticed the height of the pto would be a problem.
Before I even started I looked around for tractors that had a high hitch point. I found IH to be in that category. (in fact they measured the same height exactly).

I set about buying IH implements for that tractor but thats where I left off as I had other commitments. I completed the hitch system anyway
and the first PTO implement was a "V" one stage snowblower. I discovered that the PTO would start to pound when the blower was 2in from the ground so I welded on some skids that it needed anyway as the bottom edge was worn. It works fine now but as you noted I don't like the maximum angle.

Another option is to build a frame 6in lower than the PTO and build a second PTO. I went to check for all the parts that would be needed for this and the total bill came to 50$. It would use a #40 implement chain (motorcycle would do) on 2 pulleys. Never got around to build that too as I'm still convinced you can find high hitch
implements for it.

Not too familiar with the 44, but my 51 MH30 is a pull tractor used to pull horse implements and hay wagons and such.

I'm pretty sure a 2 groove pulley can be run off the crankcase pulley for your hydraulic pump as the GPM wouldn't be high enough to require a lot of power. If you like I can supply you the name of a place that sells PTO pumps as well.
You could run it off your side belt pulley if you have one.

When i bought my parts mh30 it had a case loader and the guy didn't bother cleaning off the cement that was hardened in the bucket. I found it kinda heavy anyway and would suggest a pipe frame loader and smaller bucket something like you would find on a ford 8N. But it can use a loader, only not a heavy one and for regular farm work,snow removal,manure removal stuff.
You might want to get a higher capacity pump as you will be splitting the power to 2 cylinders and your GPM made for a single cylinder would be too slow.

Blue

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Marcel

06-26-2002 09:16:50




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 Re: am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems in reply to Chris Brown, 06-25-2002 21:14:08  
We use to bale with one when I was a kid. Do not remember any problem with hookup. Can't you adjust the hitch on your baler. I am guessing the tractor is 50 years old! Sounds like you need a different/newer style tractor with live pto, live hydraulics, power steering and a factory 3 point hitch. I would guess they were used for cultivating and seeding. Proably not meant to be a yard tractor.

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Chris Brown

06-26-2002 10:18:26




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 Re: Re: am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems in reply to Marcel, 06-26-2002 09:16:50  
I only took this tractor in on trade,I didn't go out and buy it.I have several much newer tractors but I don't like for something to just sit around and rust,if it runs it might as well be doing something.I know it'll pull tho old IH trip plow and the hay rake.I kind of like the way this tractor drives,it would be nice to feed hay in the winter,all the other tractors are diesel's except the H which is a little small.I thought about building one of those single round bale spike trailers to pull with it this winter.Both the rears are full of fluid and wheel weights too it'll pull like a mule,just would be nice if it had a few newer options.

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kspuller

06-26-2002 19:50:36




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 Re: Re: Re: am I the only one with M H 44 sp or std problems in reply to Chris Brown, 06-26-2002 10:18:26  
Saw a 44 several years ago with a custom (shop) built pto mounted on the bracket attached to the drawbar mount. It was driven by a double chain and sprocket off the stock pto fitted with a sprocket. The guy who owned it did a lot of constuction work with it.



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