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Bill

03-24-2003 05:03:18

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Aside from setting the tractor on fire, what are risks of welding on one of these old Massey's? I ask because I am putting together a front bumper and it sure would be a lot easier if I could tack the vertical grill onto the extension arms coming out from the front axle while they are bolted in place. The tractor is a MF50 diesel.

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Bill

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Ric Ks.

03-26-2003 14:41:29

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

If you do besure no flamable things around to catch fire. Neighbor lost a auction barn full of items as well as 2 old MM tractors that way.

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Louis

03-25-2003 18:05:05

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

as long as the ground clamp is on the same piece of steel that you are welding, there will be no problems, but dont let the electricity flow thru a bearing or such

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Joe Ferguson

03-25-2003 07:13:30

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

Hi bill

It may be hazardous to weld on the tractor especially if the welding machine is a DC type (direct current)
High current flowing in one direction may magnetize the tractor or a part of it.
If you have to weld on the tractor it is preferable to put your ground clamp as close as possible to your weld and disconnect battery cables (at the battery) and ground both cables to the tractor body. This will avoid high magnetic fields to damage electrical components by induction.

Few years ago at a weling shop near me I saw a Ford 9N magnetized..it attracted all metal
pieces...bolts wrenches and....with a DC type welding machine the welder placed the ground clamp
to the rear draw bar to weld someting there and
made other welds to the front of the loader witout
changing the ground clamp.

Good welding

Joe Ferguson

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ih_bug

03-24-2003 19:43:16

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

put the ground clamp on in such a way that the current dosent travel though a bearing surface

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Rick (ont)

03-24-2003 12:08:47

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

Worked in a welding shop for 20 years and did lots of welding on trucks and equipment. Place the ground clamp as close as you can to the piece you are working on and take the battery cables off the battery. Less chance of harming the electrics that way. The new stuff with all the electronics is more fussy when it comes to welding.

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Rick (ont)

03-24-2003 12:08:25

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

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Bill Hires

03-24-2003 10:13:23

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Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill, 03-24-2003 05:03:18

I wouldn't do it! I have heard of damage done to, crankshafts, bearings, wiring and electrical components that occured from arc welding on tractors, cars and jeeps. If you do weld with the bumper on the machine place the ground clamp as near the weld area as possible. We just made a front weight bracket for a 185 Allis and did all the work on the welding bench.

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bob

03-25-2003 13:32:08

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Re: Re: Welding on a MF in reply to Bill Hires, 03-24-2003 10:13:23

I ruined a dozer engine once welding cleats onto the track pads, even tho I grounded close to the welding. It arc-ed between the bearing and the crankshaft somehow. Welding should be done off the machine if possible.

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