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MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions

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Bill

08-26-2003 18:26:31




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I have a MF50 Diesel and really like both the MF35 and MF65 tractors too.

I was wondering as to why MF made the 50 when it was larger on the front end than the 35, but the same hp, yet smaller in hp and carried similar front end arrangement with the 65.

My guess is that a lot of folks were happy with the hp of the 35, but needed more weight on the front of the tractor for stability and additional clearance at the front. I suppose they could have this for less $$ than a 65.

Any comments/insite would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Hamish

08-30-2003 13:54:15




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 Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions in reply to Bill, 08-26-2003 18:26:31  
In 1955 with the " mereger " of Ferguson and Massey Harris, the MH50 was launched to give MH dealers a tractor with ferguson system hydraulics.It was basically a TO35 with planetary reduction hubs on the rear to give greater engine speed and larger rear wheels, and a different front end to accomodate single arm steering geometry for row crop work. The Ferguson dealers complained and they got the same tractor , the ferguson 50. With the introduction of the more powerful perkins engine into these tractors in 1957 we then got the MF65

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Cosmo

08-27-2003 16:41:00




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 Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions in reply to Bill, 08-26-2003 18:26:31  
I wholeheartedly agree with indydirtfarmer. I grew up on what was a HI-40 Ferguson. As a beginning teenager I was ignorant of the draft control as was my daddy who was happy to no longer follow a mule. After a couple of years of a permanent crick in my neck trying to turn land and do a decent job, I read the manual. What a revelation! Abour four years ago I found an FE35 to mow my great estate of five acres. And they say you can't go home again. I wouldn't trade it for a new one.

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David B

08-27-2003 05:43:06




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 Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions in reply to Bill, 08-26-2003 18:26:31  
In central Il most farmers bought the M-F utilities for second tractors and used loaders on them. The front end on the 50's worked much better on the loader and it steered better. The 65 and a heavy loader with front pump was the best. Double tough!



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Indydirtfarmer

08-27-2003 04:17:56




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 Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions in reply to Bill, 08-26-2003 18:26:31  
I guess the only way to really know why, would be to ask the people involved with F-MF-MH-MHF at the time. My father bought a Massey 50, in 1957. We also had a Ferguson 40, which is essentially the same tractor. And they are much the same as a Massey Harris 50. He told me that the 50 was an effort to make the 30/35 into more of a rowcrop tractor. They were (and still are) very popular in this part of the country. Massey Ferguson has always been popular in the tobaco growing areas. (Don't know what the "link" is) The 40/50 is a bit heavier, lending itself to loader use. That's especially true with the heavier "rowcrop" axle. There are thousands of 20's,30's, 35's,40's,50's,135's, and 150's in this area. (Southern Indiana/Northern Kentucky) As I suspect there is about everywhere. The 50 isn't "rare" compared to some tractors, but it is still very much sought after, as is any small 3 pt. tractor. As I see it, from the mid 50's on, Massey Ferguson built, and perfected what is now considered the best "small" tractors ever built. Most tractor makers went in pursuit of the "big" tractor market that was exploding. Massey built bigger tractors, but they didn't neglect the small market in order to do so. I farm primarily with Deere equipment. I bleed green. But....Massey Ferguson built the best 30 to 45 horsepower tractors on the face of the earth. We still use the 50. It has been completely restored, and looks better than new. We tried to "replace" it with a number of tractors, but none of them ever match up to what Massey Ferguson did 46 years ago.

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owen

08-28-2003 20:31:53




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 Re: Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Questions in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 08-27-2003 04:17:56  
I have a MF-65 and I don't see many postings concerning ths tractor. I really like it so far but don't have anything to compare it with either.I did select it over the Ford 9n and 8n. I do have a problem though, it is "puffing" blue smoke occassionally. I hope I'm not looking at major repairs, oil pressure is good. There shows to be only 2,250 hrs. I also found this to be a deceiving number.For example it can run all day in for ie: 1,200 rpm and the hour reading is not the same running time as your watch would show.
I would be very interested in seeing some photos of your ( anyone out there ) MF-65

Well anyway, I would like to find both new grill pieces. Anyone know a real price?
Thanks for your time.

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Tim

09-03-2003 19:19:40




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 Re: Re: Re: MF35 MF50 MF65 History/Design Quest in reply to owen , 08-28-2003 20:31:53  
If you would like I have some pics of a 65' that
I used to own. I had it 19 yrs. E-mail me if you like!



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