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Hot Alternator on 135

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BUD

03-26-2000 21:40:06




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I just replaced the alternator on my 135 and may have a problem. I got one from Auto Zone that Cross referenced with the Delco in my parts manual. The salesperson said it had an internal regulator so I wouldn’t need a voltage regulator (I took his word for it and it does have a place for a two wire plug). I wired from the oil pressure switch to the field terminal, the Bat. wire from the alternator through the ammeter to the battery circuit where it was originally hooked up and the other wire from the plug back to the Bat. terminal. The alternator seems to be charging now, and the ammeter reads from just above zero, to almost 20 at pto speed (is this about right?) The problem started when I ran the tractor for a few minutes and the alternator got warm and started to smell. I figured it was just the “new” smell, but it gets nearly too hot to touch. I decided to go ahead and run it for a while and cut 4 or 5 acres. It didn’t burn up or anything and the ammeter still reads the same. Seems to start fine but the hot alternator bothers me. Do I have the wrong alternator? Did I wire it wrong? (It does have a terminal marked “Grnd” and I didn’t ground it) Any help would surely be appreciated.

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Tyler(WA)

03-28-2000 06:33:19




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 Re: Hot Alternator on 135 in reply to BUD, 03-26-2000 21:40:06  
Bud,

The two smaller connections for your internally regulated alternator (in addition to the big output lug) are field and sense. The field wire is what turns the thing on and the snese line is a high impedence line to "taste" the voltage at the desired destination and allow the regulator to adjust for line loss. Most folks just jump the sense line to the output lug at the alternator since the short wiring on a tractor doesn't amount to much line loss. If you get these two lines crossed, it will make the alternator run all the time and it can get a little warm. Also, if the sense line is realizing any loss through the oil pressure switch, the regulator will try to compensate and up the output voltage (creating an over-voltage condition). The easy way to tell which is which, is... with the tractor motor NOT running but both field and sense lines jumpered to the output lug (battery), make and break the connection to each of the two connections. The field winding will spark since it draws more current (run that one to the oil pressure switch) but the sense line will not draw a spark since it it very high impedence.

Your alternator will run with both leads tied to the output lug. They do this in dragsters and call it a one wire alternator. I don't use this configuration for my tractor because it will drain your battery if you leave the key on with the engine not running.

Check your e-mail. I'll send you an article on adapting these internally regulated alternators to older tractors. I have a MF-2135 which is the industrial version of your 135.

BTW - don't worry about the ground lug. You have a good ground if the alternator is securely mounted to the engine with metal parts (like bolts).

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