loader hydraulics

O my 135, on the top cover, by the front of the seat, on the left side i have a pipe (i beleive factory installed) for the trailer tipping pipe. Bloke is selling me a valve that he says goes on the right hand one, the one held on by the two bolts. He says its the sort of valve that will seperate the loader from the tractor hydraulics when i want to use the 3 point. I forgot to mention that it has the trailer tipping pipe on the left. I assume that it will be ok to have this set up?

It will supply pressure to both of them i assume, then if the loader valve is shut and i have a trailer connected it will tip, if no trailer pipe connected and loader valve switched on when i move the leavers the loader will lift?

Its only a simple trip loade, no spools etc.

Thanks

Ben

If my thinking is right, you"ll have to isolate the trailer-tipping port w/ a ball valve while using your loader off the new under-seat valve.

I looked pretty extensively @ the type of valve you"re talking about. The answer I always ran into was the 100-series tractors with the internal auxilliary pump or a front pump was the only way to operate the rear hydraulics & FEL @ same time independently. I went with the front pump & loader-mounted valve.

Jeff

I know that obviously if theres a trailer plugged in i wont be able to lift the loader, but if there is not will it be ok?

Ben

Do you have a pick-up hitch on the 135 for your tipping trailer? Or do you use a swinging drawbar? I ask because I am trying to fabricate my own version of the Ferguson auto-hitch for my 8N.

Jeff

It has a swinging draw bar, but when im doing loads of swapping about with trailers i put on what we call over here a "Fergie Bar."

Its a straight bar that goes on the lower links of the 3 point. It has 9/10 ish holes in it. Then you can simply lift up any trailers etc. It needs sway bars to use effectively especially if reversing and i dont know how easy it would be to get it steady with only draft control on your 8n. Very easy to make up one of those if it would work for you. Very annoying though if its your only drawbar and your using 3 point stuff as often as your drawing trailers. Constantly changing it.

Works for me when i have to shunt trailers around anyway, as the 135 is my only tractor.

Yes, we have the straight drawbar also w/ the 8N, it"s the only drawbar my grandad used to pull the trailer around. He used stabilizer bars & stay bars w/ it, but he had to use a clevis hitch on the trailer, I"m not sure a lock was available back then to keep the bar from rotating.

The 8N has position control like your 135(one of the improvements over the 9N/2N), so the Fergie bar works well the same way you describe(w/ the stay bars removed, of course). It will still come up on you when reversing w/o the stays.

Jeff