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Backhoejoe

03-06-2005 08:02:30




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I"m looking at a 200 crawler it runs great but wont move off the spot. What kind of common problems do these things have. It has a 4 speed with forward and reverse shuttle trans,from what i can see. It use to move but you had to run high rpm"s to move now it doen"t move at all




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marlowe

03-07-2005 10:24:03




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 Re: 200 crawler in reply to Backhoejoe, 03-06-2005 08:02:30  
check the hydraulic coupling it looks like the fly wheel the starter ring gear is on this. on the bellm houseing is a little swinging door about the size of a 50 cent peace one little bolt holds it at the top 0pen it in side you will see the hyd. coup [engine off] use pry bar on teeth turn till you see a plug there will be [[[[TWO]]]]] one steel on plactic make sure BOTH are in if one is gone it will be the plastic one it;s a over heat plug that will melt if it over heats if it's in pull out the [[[[STEEL]]] one and fill to plug with dextron 2 ATF might just be low on ATF because it is NOT a self filler

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Backhoejoe

03-07-2005 04:36:55




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 Re: 200 crawler in reply to Backhoejoe, 03-06-2005 08:02:30  
Thanks for the info, but the motor does't even seem to load down when you try to put it in gear and I thought that the torque converter may be shot or clutch/schuttle valves not operating correctly.



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Oldfarmboy Jim

03-06-2005 21:26:32




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 Re: 200 crawler in reply to Backhoejoe, 03-06-2005 08:02:30  
The first thing that comes to mind, is the clutch. It might be too worn to move its own weight. Second thing is, brakes rusted and won't release. Finally, depending on how long it's been sitting, the track chains may be rusted to each other and the bushings. I resurrected a TD 340 after it sat for eight years. Put it in neutral and you couldn't get those tracks to roll no matter what tractor you tried to pull it with.
Finally, jacked it up and put timbers under the frame so the tracks were clear of the ground. Liberally sprayed the track joints with PB Blaster. Next day I got the engine running and worked the clutch just a little at a time. Whenever it sounded like it was going to stall, I pushed the clutch in and eased it out again. Took a few minutes but both sides loosened up without breaking anything. After adjusting the steering clutches and brakes, it worked pretty well. Been running for about a year and a half so most of the rust must be knocked off by now. Good Luck.

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Oldfarmboy Jim

03-06-2005 21:25:09




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 Re: 200 crawler in reply to Backhoejoe, 03-06-2005 08:02:30  
The first thing that comes to mind, is the clutch. It might be too worn to move its own weight. Second thing is, brakes rusted and won't release. Finally, depending on how long it's been sitting, the track chains may be rusted to each other and the bushings. I resurrected a TD 340 after it sat for eight years. Put it in neutral and you couldn't get those tracks to roll no matter what tractor you tried to pull it with.
Finally, jacked it up and put timbers under the frame so the tracks were clear of the ground. Liberally sprayed the track joints with PB Blaster. Next day I got the engine running and worked the clutch just a little at a time. Whenever it sounded like it was going to stall, I pushed the clutch in and eased it out again. Took a few minutes but both sides loosened up without breaking anything. After adjusting the steering clutches and brakes, it worked pretty well. Been running for about a year and a half so most of the rust must be knocked off by now. Good Luck.

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