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BryanV

04-18-2005 20:42:21

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Hi everyone!
This is my first post to this forum.
I am looking at a MF 35 Deluxe with a Perkins Diesel and it has a couple of problems that make
me nervous.
First is the two stage clutch. Some times it is hard to get it in gear. You have to grind it in.
If you rest your foot on the peddel without pushing it down it is easy to go from one gear to
the other. Once you take your foot off the peddle
and try to shift again you have to grind it in.
Do you think it needs a new clutch?
If so I imagine that is a spendy fix.

Problem two is that the Multi power does not seem
to work.
I am not sure I would even use it but I was wondering if this would cause any other problems.

Otherwise the tractor is in pretty good shape.
It starts real easy but does give a small puff of
black smoke when you rev it up.
I would not be so worried about this stuff if he
was not asking so much for it. $3200 seems a bit high..??

I appreciate your opinions.
Thanks,
Bryan

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mike in pa

04-19-2005 21:20:51

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to BryanV, 04-18-2005 20:42:21

Bryan , There are tons of posts in the archives about the multi power and the Perkins . Some people disconect the multipower linkage to cover up it leaking . There are posts about a hole in the bottem of the clutch casting being plugged to cover up the leak too . The guy you"re buying it from may not know , it may have been done before he got it . The problem shifting is related . The gears dont want to mesh because there is a slight pressure on them . If your multi power worked it would shift very easily in low . Clutch adjustment will help but sometimes it just will be unavoidable . A verry little bit of black smoke when first reved up is a good thing in a diesel ( I did say a little ). Don"t know where you are located but around here , if these are all the problems with it , it would sell 1st day . Mine has a couple more problems than that and I paid $3500 . Great little tractor . Again check the archives , there are pages of answers there . Mike

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BryanV

04-19-2005 22:02:58

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to mike in pa, 04-19-2005 21:20:51

Thanks a bunch.
I will have to go back over there look it over
again. I will also search the archives and learn
more about the multi power.
Thanks again,
Bryan

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DavidP, South Wales

04-19-2005 14:14:25

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to BryanV, 04-18-2005 20:42:21

Hi,
Does seem like the clutch is out of adjustment and the first stage (travel) is running into the second stage (pto). Adjusters are accessible through the hole under the clutch housing. A bit fiddly but the odd grazed knuckle will soon show you how to do it! Clearance on the bolt heads should be around 1/16 to 3/32. More important to get them all the same. The clutch pedal should have about 1 inch of free movement and the PTO should stop with the pedal about 3/4 to 1 inch off the footplate. As mentioned if its valve guides, not a big problem.
Re Multi-Power. You have to use it. You have no engine braking in low range and you will find that you have to shift to low to disengage the 'hill-hold' feature. Why do you think its not working?

Cheers

DavidP

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BryanV

04-19-2005 17:12:57

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-19-2005 14:14:25

Thanks guys.
Both I and the owner did not realize the clutch
was adjustable so that looks like a fixable problem.
As far as the Multi-Power goes I did not really
even understand what it did and neither did the
owner. I just took his word that it did not work.
How do you actually use it?
When you flip the switch nothing seems to happen.
I am new to tractors so I have a lot to learn.
Thanks,
Bryan

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DavidP, South Wales

04-20-2005 11:16:01

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to BryanV, 04-19-2005 17:12:57

Hello again,
If the Multi-Power is working it should behave as follows. It is essentially another range of gears douubling the existing 6 to 12 forward and 2 to 4 reverse. But it is more than that.
In high range you have engine braking, in low you do not. You cannot tow the tractor to start it. Now the positive;
If you are doing a job such as baling hay and come to a pile more than you think the baler can cope with without changing gear, you can shift to 'low' and your forward speed is reduced by approximately one third. After the hay has gone through, go back to high and resume your original pace. When travelling slowly the drop and increase in speed may not be noticeable. When travelling in top gear the drop and increase should be very noticeable. In addition to this you have 'hill-hold'. This feature allows you to stop safely on a hill without having to dis-engage or re-engage gear. If you are facing uphill in a forward gear, pressing the clutch pedal through the first stage will hold the tractor stationary. It will roll back when you push the pedal to the floor. Allowing you to change gear if required. Same for reverse if facing downhill and in reverse. Difficulty in disengaging gear in 'hill-hold' is normal. All you need to do is switch to 'low' or press the pedal right down.
I have a 1966 MF 135 and would be more than happy if it was a MP version.

Cheers

DavidP

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DavidP, South Wales

04-19-2005 14:17:11

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-19-2005 14:14:25

Forgot to mention that the asking price does seem a bit high even from this side of the pond.
It would have to be something special for that price.
DavidP

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txgrn

04-20-2005 06:59:31

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 04-19-2005 14:17:11

Hear you but geographical location has it's impact.

I live in a county that is supposed to have more "farms" that any other county in the US. Now it only takes 5 acres to qualify for a farm around here. Ha!

That means the demand for small utility tractors is very high and priced accordingly. Additionally the Yuppie urbanites have the bucks to spend with their big city jobs and big fat paychecks and all.

(The county is the next governing segment after the city (township). Probably encompasses 1600 square miles give or take. Don't remember the equivalent in the UK. I remember Upper Heyford, and Lower Heyford, and Oxford but nothing higher. I think Japan calls them "Prefectors".)

I am amazed at what I have to pay for stuff and what I see midwest guys paying. Almost makes you want to get a trailer and go up there and buy. Course guys from here do that for a living. They bring that stuff down here and either sell it as is, or fix it up and get a handsome price for it.

Mark

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04-29-2005 14:16:50

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txgrn

04-19-2005 07:54:00

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Re: Looking at a MF 35 in reply to BryanV, 04-18-2005 20:42:21

Puffs of smoke after idling are usually oil running down the valve guides (worn guides). Not really a biggie if not too bad since it is a diesel.

Clutch could be out of adjustment. Sid in Austrailia is good on tweaking the live pto clutch. MF archives should be full of his posts. If it won't adjust you are looking at probably $1000 to have it replaced and setup. Just sounds like it is not disengaging (adjustment) rather the opposite.....slipping which would indicate worn out.

The perkie is a great engine. 35 is a great tractor.

IF you can solve the complexity ($$$$$) of the clutch question, you may have yourself a deal. Maybe you could load it on a trailer and take it to a tractor mechanic and have him adjust it for you. Adjusters are accessible from underneath and no splitting of the housings is required.

I paid $4000 for mine a year ago with new clothes. Had the perkie diesel. Really like it.

Mark

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