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Hydraulic Pump rebuild Q's

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Aaron Ford

03-30-2006 20:07:49




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Does anyone have any tips on installing an all inclusive pump kit on a Massey 65? My Sparex kit came today from YT and I was curious if there was anything I need to know. I have an IT manual and a parts manual, so i have no info on torque specs and such. Any response is appreciated. Aaron




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DavidP, South Wales

03-30-2006 23:25:40




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 Re: Hydraulic Pump rebuild Q's in reply to Aaron Ford, 03-30-2006 20:07:49  
Hello,
Everything is generally straight forward. If you have not done one before it is well worth spending a few minutes centre popping the position of the yokes in relation to the front and back housings. If you look at the new ones you will see that the piston is not in the centre. Also as you take the old unit apart make a sketch of the assembly of the control valve so that you have YOUR record of assembly. The piston rings require care in fitting and will break easily. Make sure all O rings are discarded especially the small ones in the end plates. When you tighten the filter body keep operating the control valve to make sure its free.
Don't forget to fit the oscillator link (magnifying glass shape). The poppet valves are easy. Make sure the circlips are engaged. Oil all components as you assemble them. Good Luck
DavidP

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Dean

04-01-2006 16:34:40




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 Interference: Piston/Oscillator Linkage in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 03-30-2006 23:25:40  
David:

Your comments here raised a question about what I discovered when I recently rebuilt the pump in one of my MF-35s. Specifically, upon reassembly of my pump using aftermarket TISCO parts, I discovered that the piston assemblies interfered with the linkage for the oscillator and the pump would not rotate a full 360 degrees. I made several attempts to reorient the piston assemblies but could find no arrangement that eliminated the interference. Eventually, I relieved the corners of two of the square piston frames with a die grinder, reassembled the pump, installed it in the tractor, and everything seems to be fine.

Annoyed with TISCO, I attributed the interference to an aftermarket redesign of the piston assemblies without proper verification that the redesigned parts would not interfere.

The assemblies are installed such that a machined surface of each is toward either end frame of the pump. According to my I&T manual this is correct. Unfortunately, when orienting the assemblies this way, the factory relieved corners of the piston assemblies are not in proper position to provide clearence for the oscillator linkage. Orienting the piston assemblies such that the unmachined surfaces are toward the pump end frames would result in clearance for the oscillator linkage as the pistom frames are relieved in this area.

Have you seen this before? Additionally, you state that the pistons are not centered symetrically on the square frames. Is this offset side to side or vertically? The original pistons appear to be symetrical and I cannot look at the new ones as they are in the tractor.

I am contemplating removing my pump again to see if perhaps I missed something. Perhaps the piston assemblies are upside down causing the interference.

Any advice that you may offer will be appreciated.

Dean

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Aaron Ford

03-31-2006 13:51:26




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 Re: Hydraulic Pump rebuild Q's in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 03-30-2006 23:25:40  
Thanks for the tip on the pistons not being symmetrical. I wonder if that is what happened to the last kit. It looks like this pump has been rekitted recently, unfortunately the piston "square" did not survive long. I will oil liberally upon reassembly. I would be interested in any other comments. Thanks Aaron



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