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Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma.

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Bill Brox

05-10-2006 13:47:30




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Hi C.T. Sorry it took so long, and it is not a good answer.

SNFY 360173 is a 1964 model. But, I can't figure out the F... normally they had only 3 letters. My original UK shop manual does not say anything about the F letter.

Anyway, a 3 cyl. diesel engine is what was offered in 1964, actually it may be the 35X, with the little stronger engine.
Massey Ferguson bought Perkins in first half of 1959, and around mid year or so they stopped using the 23C engine and went over to the 3-152 Perkins engine. Those 35 that came with gas or TVO came with the Standard 87 mm engine.

The plate may indicate FE 35, Massey Ferguson was not so particular about that on those tractors.
Did you know that Harry Ferguson Ltd is still going strong, it is still a registrated company and as far as I know still sits on all the copyrights, patends, and such things for the grey Fergusons.

The hood on your tractor has a different look than the TE/TO series, and the later MF 35 built in the US. The UK hood has some similarities with the hood Harry Ferguson intended to use on the big Ferguson that was never built.

I hope this helps, and if you need more info, just ask. I am still working on mine to get it on the road.

By the way, yesterday I saw a MF 35 with rear mounted winch and half tracks in forest use.
I haven't seen half tracs on a MF in oh so long. In the same area I also saw a MF 135 with half tracks and rear mounted winch for forest use.
Good to see someone still using them.


All the best from Bill

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JJ. in B.C.

05-10-2006 20:20:27




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to Bill Brox, 05-10-2006 13:47:30  
Hi Bill

Hope you dont mind if i stick my oar in here. You are correct that serial # should relate to a FE35. The prefix SNFY = Normal width, Diesel, Single clutch, Diff. lock.

Regards, JJ.



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-11-2006 07:53:39




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to JJ. in B.C., 05-10-2006 20:20:27  
JJ., I have the dual clutch, but I agree with you, the letters in my s/n say I don't. Could the clutch have been changed by an owner? Also, mine is a deluxe (at least I have the items that were standard on a deluxe), so wasn't the dual clutch included as standard equipment? Thanks, C. T.



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JJ. in B.C.

05-11-2006 19:05:29




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 05-11-2006 07:53:39  
Hi C.T.
I dont think there is any set answer to your Questions. I have seen these that had MF on the s/n plate and FE on other parts such as the Tach. I had a 63' UK model that i went through much the same thing with. I came to the conclusion that at the end of the model run before the introduction of the 135s, MF UK where using whatever parts they had on hand !! I have never seen a late model Diesel with the single clutch, the Positive ground seems to be a UK anomaly along with Lucas electrics.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-12-2006 12:17:47




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to JJ. in B.C., 05-11-2006 19:05:29  
JJ, Another funny thing about my s/n is that the difference between what YT's number show as the first s/n for 1964 is 112,568, the implication that they made 112,568+ 35's that year and that is way off base compared to prior year production. In 1963 it appears that they made 12,400+ tractors. I agree with you, who knows, who cares? I love the 35, just wish I had good reason to work it like it needs to be worked. Just a small farm, my five acres don't do it justice. The good thing is when I die, I think it will be sold to somebody to use it for another twenty+ years. Maybe that somebody will be a farmer. By the way, my neighbor that overhauled the engine for me (he didn't like something, I forget what, smoking too much I think), told me I was crazy about the positive ground. He had to come to the house to see for himself. He was scratching his head when he left. He rebuilt the engine and I paid for parts, great neighbor. Thanks for the response, C. T.

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JJ. in B.C.

05-12-2006 12:55:10




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 05-12-2006 12:17:47  
Hi C.T.
The s/ns on the UK tractors are different than N.American built ones, 1963 UK 35's ran from 307231 to 352254 and 1964 - 352255 to 388382. I have a 1965 MF135 UK with s/n 3810 which again is totaly different than N.A. numbers. I am glad you are enjoying your 35 whatever it is, good luck.
Regards, JJ.



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-12-2006 14:34:26




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to JJ. in B.C., 05-12-2006 12:55:10  
JJ, Now that makes sense! I have never been able to figure out the s/n and I have never been looking at strictly Coventry manufactured web pages/sites. What is your source? I would like to go to those sites and maybe learn a little more about my tractor. Thank you again! C. T.



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JJ. in B.C.

05-13-2006 21:37:21




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 05-12-2006 14:34:26  
C.T., send me your E-mail address and i will send you a copy of what i have on file for the UK 35s, JJ.



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-11-2006 07:48:23




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 Re: Extremely late answer for C.T. in Oklahoma. in reply to JJ. in B.C., 05-10-2006 20:20:27  
Bill, Thanks for the response. I mentioned in my original question that I have positive ground, did any MF35's manufactured in the U. S. have that? C. T.



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