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135 fan

10-05-2006 22:41:16

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I have a couple of questions for the MF experts. In my operators manual it says that constant pumping isn't affected by load or compression on the draft spring yet when I have a blade or heavier implement on the back the loader is slower. If I lower the 3 pt. to the ground the hydraulics speed up. With no implement it does not affect speed. I make sure not to lift all the way up as it can in constant pumping. Is this normal or can something be adjusted? The tractor was in the shop a few years ago and they said everything was good. The other question is with multi-power it says you can have a combining valve to speed up Aux. hydraulics. Is this another option? Also do the aux. hyd. work of off the multi-power pump or is there a special pump for multi-power and aux. hydraulics? I have a two spool valve on the tranny cover with three screw adjustments. Two at the back and one on the side. One of them is for single or double acting cylinders but I'm not sure about the others. I read about this on Big Deans site I think. To work the 3 pt. controls the left lever has to be back and in neutral to use the other valve. I'm wondering if I can combine the internal hydraulics with the multi-power pump? Thanks in advance Dave

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JJ. in B.C.

10-06-2006 19:46:23

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to 135 fan, 10-05-2006 22:41:16

Hi dave, there were two different systems from the factory. The basic multi-power pump only drives the multi-power clutch. The auxiliary pump system drives the multi-power clutch and can be used to drive external hydraulics and operates independently of the lift pump. It can also be combined with the lift pump to give a greater output. Yours sounds like everything is operating from the lift pump which has limited capabilitys. JJ.

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DavidP, South Wales

10-07-2006 11:20:37

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to JJ. in B.C., 10-06-2006 19:46:23

Hi all,
To throw in my four penny-worth.
Outside of different models of pump fitted the main variations are;
The basic Multi-Power system is operated by a single element pump.
The auxillary and MP systems have a dual element pump, one element supplying the MP and the other the aux both mounted on top of the Ferguson pump. Ferguson pump flow for a 135 is approx 3.5 gals per min at 2350psi on older tractors and 2550 on later ones. The dual aux pump puts out approx 7.9 gpm at 2000psi. Used singly you have a choice of pressures but if you use the combining valve you will have a terrific flow but your pressure will be limited to around 2000psi.
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DavidP

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135 Fan

10-07-2006 13:34:55

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 10-07-2006 11:20:37

Thanks for the info. I think I only have the Multi-power pump. In my manual it says maximum hyd. pressure is 2800 psi. I have picked up 2000 lbs with the loader but don't recommend it. Is there a way to adjust the pressure to get a little more lift capacity on the 3 pt.? Thanks Dave

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DavidP, South Wales

10-08-2006 05:00:58

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to 135 Fan, 10-07-2006 13:34:55

Hi,
Yes, the pressure can be adjusted if you have Pressure control, not if you don't. Before trying to adjust it remember that that is the pressure that the tractor is designed to work at and you risk damaging something if you exceed this.
DavidP

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135 Fan

10-08-2006 08:02:44

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 10-08-2006 05:00:58

Thanks. I don't think I have pressure control. How do you tell?

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135 Fan

10-07-2006 00:48:47

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Re: 135 aux. hydraulics in reply to JJ. in B.C., 10-06-2006 19:46:23

Thanks J.J. I ordered the world wide guide to MF 100 and 1000 series tractors by John Farnsworth. It lists most if not all different models made. I think there are 14 different versions of 135's! French 140's look the same. 148's are the same except for a 7 inch spacer on the transmission that gave more room for a cab. It listed the combining valve for the UK model. I've never heard of this before so thought I'd ask. I didn't realize that you needed a special pump which I don't think I have. It's too bad MF didn't keep better records. I was trying to find out how many 135's were made world wide. UK is easy to figure out from serial numbers and someone from Agco told me over 94000 US models which seems low. I know it came to well over 300 000 but I can't find out any numbers on French production. It's possible they were made in other countries like Germany as well. I wrote the numbers down but I'll have to find them. Somebody said that they were the second best selling tractor after the 35 and that in the day 1 out of 4 tractors sold in the UK was a 135! Dave

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