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athomp

11-18-2006 05:52:13




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I have a 165 gas tractor that I have only had for a short time. Yesterday I went out to load some logs and there was no power steering. In fact it had power non-steering - It took all my strength to turn the wheel at all when the tractor was moving. (Wasn't there a song called "Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around" - well that's what it's like to steer). Needless to say I couldn't use it to load anything. It steered fine the last time I used it. There is yellow oil all over the bell housing(?)but I couldn't see where it was coming from. There is a couple of hydraulic loader lines running over it also - wasn't sure if maybe the oil came from them. I could not find where to check the PS fluid level. I did check the engine oil and it was very low. At the front of the engine on the left side there is what appears to be a pump housing with two lines running from it up to the grille area but I couldn't see where they went. There is a filler cap on this pump thing where I have been putting the engine oil. Is this the PS pump and if not what is it and where do I put PS fluid in?

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athomp

11-20-2006 15:33:03




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 Re: 165 power steering in reply to athomp, 11-18-2006 05:52:13  
I went out to the woods and checked it out closer today. BOTH the engine oil fill and the power steering reservoir are on the left side at the front of the engine. I WAS putting the engine oil in the right place. The PS reservoir does not have a fill hole - I had to remove a bolt and take the top off to fill it. It"s working fine now - but I have to wait and see how soon I have to fill it again.
Thanks for the replies.

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riquetb

11-19-2006 12:43:55




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 Re: 165 power steering in reply to athomp, 11-18-2006 05:52:13  
As said DavidP, power steerring pump is on the RHS of the engine.
I often have the same kind of trouble on my MF178.
When power steering is missing, I have to refill the pump by opening the tapnut which is half height of the pump. Fill it until oil reachs the filling hole.
But as recommended by MF, I only use hydraulic fluid (for automatic gearbox for example), not engine oil.
If oil level is OK, as DavidP says, check mechanical arm which actuates hydraulic valvve behind the front grille.
Good luck.
Eric

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DavidP, South Wales

11-19-2006 09:10:10




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 Re: 165 power steering in reply to athomp, 11-18-2006 05:52:13  
Hi, here are a couple of general possibilities. If you have the same type of PAS as fitted to UK models these may apply as well.
YOu mention that you think the steering pump is on the left. As you sit in the seat is it left or right? UK models have the pump on the RHS. Is there any increase in the level of the engine oil? Any increase in the level suggests that oil is passing from the pump into the engine.
Is there a considerable amount of play at the steering wheel. This can kill the PAS activation.
If yours is similar to the UK types, remove the front grill door. You will see the steering ram with the spool valve on top. There is an adjustable barrel, ensure that both pins are in place and there is no play. Have an assistant turn the wheel while you watch the operation. Check that the ram pin is place and that the clamp assembly at the other end of the ram has not broken.
Please come back if you can be more specific on your type.
DavidP

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