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MF 165 going to pick up this weekend what to look

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brian08

05-14-2007 20:15:36




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Hi I am picking up a MF 165 gas this weekend it has little over 3000 hrs and it runs and looks good. I gave 3100 for it. Can anyone tell me anything I should look for to make sure its a good tractor?

How are parts for it easy to get I see them listed everywhere.

Thanks
Brian




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brian08

05-15-2007 07:07:31




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 Re: MF 165 going to pick up this weekend what to l in reply to brian08, 05-14-2007 20:15:36  
I will head over to that site and take a look I so far have been just going off my automotive background on checking out tractors. I did look up the serial number and the tractor is a 1966.

Btw the does anyone have a kelly loader on one of these I have a oliver 1250 with a good kelly loader that I am going to try to put on it. I think it should fit but I might have to make the front brackets and I was wonder if anyone could describe the brackets to me.

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DavidP, South Wales

05-15-2007 13:11:52




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 Re: MF 165 going to pick up this weekend what to l in reply to brian08, 05-15-2007 07:07:31  
Hi,
If the tractor is 1966 it will undoubtedly have 'dry' brakes. Check very carefully for any sign of 'grabbing' and the wheel/s locking on.
Problems here will almost certainly mean replacing the actuators- ouch!!!
Also good pedal pressure but little braking effort- oil on the discs.

DavidP



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Don-wi

05-14-2007 23:41:56




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 Re: MF 165 going to pick up this weekend what to l in reply to brian08, 05-14-2007 20:15:36  
do you know if it's a Perkins or Continental? The perkins are a little bit newer, but that doesn't mean the continentals are junk. I thik you paid a fair price, but without a picture i can't say for sure.

We've got a 165 w/ continental engine in it, and its a good tractor. Got it under a loader so it sees it's fair share of abuse too.

Check out the 2 stage clutch for the pto engagement (assuming it has a 2 stage clutch Live PTO and not hydraulic Independant PTO) The tractor should stop with the clutch 1/2 way down, and you should feel a bit of a spot in the middle too where just the motion stops. All the way down, the pto should stop, and shouldn't grind while engaging it.

Multi-power is a great thing to have, but can be expensive to fix. Should give a hard jerk when engaged to high while in motion. Don't worry, you're not gonna damage anything by engaging it in motion either, that's what it's made for.

Steering gets worn out and can get really sloppy. There are several points that coule be at fault here too, such as tie rod ends, bushings in the spindles/axel pivot, and some other things behind the grill.

Brakes should be strong too. They can be a real bear to change and if you're shop isn't equipped with an engine hoist or over head crane, you're best off having a dealer do them.

Look under the belly for a cotter pin to be hangint out. A little oil isn't a big deal, but if it's running out then it'll have to be split and fixed.

Hope this helps, Big Dean has a massey checklist on his website too.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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DavidP, South Wales

05-15-2007 01:24:05




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 Re: MF 165 going to pick up this weekend what to l in reply to Don-wi, 05-14-2007 23:41:56  
Hi,
Don has covered most things, but to elaborate a little on the steering;
Have someone turn the steering wheel in the play and look for wear in the bushes and main shaft that goes through the front axle casting. This indicates two things, if you have wear here it is probably because it has not been greased which is an indication of the level of servicing that the tractor has received. Many people do not know or forget about greasing here. This wear will cause the tractor to wander on the road.
If grease is visible and in good condition then you should have a good one thats been looked after.
Also check to see if the bolt at the 12 o'clock position in the clutch housing is fitted. It is an awkward bolt to fit and many people cannot be bothered to refit it. This again suggests the level of service.
Another minor check is how much wear is there in the clutch pedal bush.....all small things that give an overall picture.
Cheers
DavidP

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