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MF 135 3pt Hitch problems

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amako

07-26-2007 19:09:50




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I had a previous post about a nonfunctioning 3pt hitch. Since then I have picked up the factory manuals, copies of a dealers manuals and a I&T shop manual. Each has variations but the I&T manual looks the most like what I have. The simple system with no pressure control valve. Does this mean that the entire quadrant of both levers, excluding the continous pump, are for up and down? During linkage adjustments where it says to place draft control lever between sector marks, does that mean in the center of the whole quadrant? Also there is a gage to set the transport position on the rockshaft to .636. Any idea what dimension this gage sets? The picture in the I&T manual is not to clear. Everything inside looks like new. I expect it is an out of adjustment problem.

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amako

07-27-2007 20:05:36




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 Re: MF 135 3pt Hitch problems in reply to amako, 07-26-2007 19:09:50  
I found a problem with the linkage. The position control linkage was so far out of adjustment ( the small screw at the top) that the lever which rides the roller moved forward and the roller was on the front face instead of on the top. Fixed that and made internal adjustments. I split the tractor and cleaned the filter. It is back together and I put enough fluid to come up to the inspection hole. I started the tractor but lift does nothing. Is that enough fluid to get things going? or is there something else wrong? Tomorrow I'll start again.

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amako

07-28-2007 09:48:33




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 Re: MF 135 3pt Hitch problems in reply to amako, 07-27-2007 20:05:36  
All has ended well. Evidently when it went back together the control valve got stuck in the dump position. Nothing worked. Just before taking everything appart again, I removeded the roller and started the engine. The arms went up. When I put yhe roller back in it now work like it should. Letting the valve lever go full rearward must have unstuck the control valve.



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Christos

07-26-2007 21:10:29




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 Re: MF 135 3pt Hitch problems in reply to amako, 07-26-2007 19:09:50  
If your 135 has the pressure control quadrant the position control part is the rear most section of that quadrant.

Most 135s wern't built with pressure control and not to confuse you that's a weight transfer system that needs a special hitch. The old massey dealer in my hometown explained it to me as draft control for pull type implements.

My tractor has it, but I've never used it - you have to modify implements eg strenghten the tounge to make it work correctly.

Christos

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DavidP, South Wales

07-27-2007 04:55:05




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 Re: MF 135 3pt Hitch problems in reply to Christos, 07-26-2007 21:10:29  
Hello,
UK and European MF 135's were built with Pressure Control. It was optional on 135's up to about 1970 then fitted as standard afterwards when the uprated 135 was introduced. My farmer neigbhour has a 1965 135 with PC which was fitted as an option.
IT was a brilliant solution to allowing a smaller tractor to maximise its towing capacity safely.
When 4WD arrived it lost favour. It can also be set when using a mower for example in soft ground where the skids would cut the ground. When adjusted, some of the weight of the mower can be moved to the tractor, aiding traction and reducing marking.
DavidP, South Wales

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Gerald J.

07-26-2007 19:40:51




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 Re: MF 135 3pt Hitch problems in reply to amako, 07-26-2007 19:09:50  
There are some marks in the segments that I think they are referring to.

To use position control, the draft lever has to be at the top. And to use draft control it works best with the position control at the top

Draft control is only good for a plow or other ground engaging immplement. It lets the hyraulics adjust the depth so the implement pulls the same all the time. So in sticky dirt it doesn't plow as deep. Sometimes that's not what you want. Then you go to position control to set the depth and shift down when the going gets tougher.

Position control on the 135 should allow setting the implement at any desired position between in the ground and fully raised and it should stay there with the pump running. It won't stay there forever with the pump not running because a used pump and cylinder leak. The controls operate at the pump determining its output, I recall by controlling how long the intake valves are closed.

And draft control should allow any amount of drag including none at all.

Both controls are active over nearly all their range an produce an implement height or drag proportional to their position. They are continuousy variable.

Gerald J.

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