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Identify Narrow 135

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amako

09-09-2007 10:28:34

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I have a 1969 MF 135 with a narrow rear end. 37" wide to outside of brake drums. No fender mounts built into axel housing. Anyone know this model? I and the local MF dealer can find nothing in manuals or parts that show this setup. Thanks for any information.

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Gerald J.

09-11-2007 10:52:02

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to amako, 09-09-2007 10:28:34

Digging in my books, I found mention in my owner's manual for axles for vineyard with 44" minimum center to center spacing.

In my parts book, the illustration shows the same part picture but a different part number for regular and vinyard axles. I'm beginning to suspect that the vinyard picture is inacurrate. Looking at fenders, the vineyard fenders do mount at the brake flange like yours, not depending on the fender mount on the axle like the wider tractors.

I think the parts book shows details on the vineyard axle (fender mounts) that aren't there because it shows vineyard fenders that mount to the brake flanges on the ends of the axle housings like your tractor. Unfortunately the housing dimensions are not in the parts book.

Gerald J.

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Aaron Ford

09-09-2007 11:27:05

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to amako, 09-09-2007 10:28:34

If it looks like this, it is likely a vineyard model. Great conversation starter you have there. How about a pic? I will post it if you email it to me. Bet you would confuse locals with that one. Emails open.

Aaron

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amako

09-09-2007 13:34:53

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to Aaron Ford, 09-09-2007 11:27:05

I posted the picture showing the rear axel on the "Help Identify" gallery. I don't know how to post a picture on the discussion forum.

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Aaron Ford

09-09-2007 17:56:55

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to amako, 09-09-2007 13:34:53

Hope this works, and yeah, it looks like a vineyard. Not many around.

Aaron

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amako

09-09-2007 18:14:51

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to Aaron Ford, 09-09-2007 17:56:55

Everything seems to be regular 135 except for the axels. There is French words on the 3pt. position control. Everything else is English. Is it possible to get any literature on this configuration.

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135 Fan

09-09-2007 21:02:56

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to amako, 09-09-2007 18:14:51

There is on some other web sites. Go to puddings world and look in the links section. I can't remember the exact sites. I have the world wide guide to MF 100 and 1000 series tractors. There are several versions of the vineyard models. Most were made in France as late as at least 1980. Some were made by Ebro in Spain and a few made in the USA. A few models had an A3 144 engine. It doesn't show any UK reference to vineyard models built there. 135's are by far the most common MF tractor in the book with 21 different models as far as I could tell. This isn't counting other models that are based on the 135, like the 140 series or later model MF tractors. Dave

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Gerald J.

09-09-2007 10:52:21

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Re: Identify Narrow 135 in reply to amako, 09-09-2007 10:28:34

Might it be a hybrid with an axle from some other model? MF was pretty consistent about assembly interface dimensions so they could swap stuff about and probably use the same jigs for eons and so they could use the same parts on multiple models and vintages.

My parts book also shows no such option. I'm thinking special narrow orchard or vinyard tractor. But maybe its for some industrial application.

A machine shop could have made a one of, with some cutting, welding and machining. My dad did that to Ford Model A axle and drive shaft parts to make a garden tractor in about 1950 and none of those parts have broken yet even though his arc welder wasn't very good.

Gerald J.

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