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MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance

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TimMiller

12-06-2007 21:58:32

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I saw one strange thing when i was looking the tractor over. I had the tractor warmed up and it was running. When i checked the transmission dipstick (i'm assuming this is for the hydrolics also), it showed that it was over full and the fluid was a pasty white color. I'm not sure if water is mixed in, or is it supposed to be this color? I also need to do a full service on it, since it has never been done since it was picked up at auction last year. What filters and things do i need to look for or get. Also should i replace the transmission oil, and if so, with what fluid? Also how many quarts of oil does it hold. I also am wondering do i need to mix some additives into the coolant when i replace it. Also any tips would be great.

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TimMiller

12-07-2007 09:11:35

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to tech-tchr, 12-06-2007 21:58:32

TimMiller said: (quoted from post at 17:34:49 12/07/07) I'm getting a better understanding of this tractor. I was pretty sure that was a bunch of water in there. Down here in Tx its a freezing 60 degrees. The tractor does sit outside. I think it will be taking a ride from the farm back down here. I have a operators manual on the way. I have read through most of the service manual to get an understanding of where everything is. I just didnt see anywhere where it told me how much oil it needed. I know there is always the fail safe method of pouring some in, waiting a while checking the level, and poring more in till you reach the desired amount.

I just found the fluid capacity specs. Thanks.

How do i know the part number of the shifter boot i need. Its a MF135UK (it has the multipower transmission)

When i was searching for the parts in the YT store i came up with these two. Will i need one of each, or two of one type, to replace the shift boots on both shift levers?

PARTS MF Shift Boot - For models 135,135UK,150,165,175,231,``235,240,245,250,253,255,261,265,270,``275,282,283,283UK,285,290,298,360,``(375,383,390,393,396> S\N B06171),IND ``20,20C,20D,30,31. (Part No: 1678565M2) 3.06

PARTS MF Gear Shift Boot - For models TE20,TO20,TO30,TO35,35,50,65,85,88,SUPER 90,135,150,165,175,230,235,245,255,265,275,285. (Part No: 520858M1)

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Aaron Ford

12-09-2007 05:53:20

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-07-2007 09:11:35

Does it look like this?

http://www.ytmag.com/store/parts/pics/520858M1_sml.jpg

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Aaron Ford

12-09-2007 05:54:11

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to Aaron Ford, 12-09-2007 05:53:20

Or this?

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TimMiller

12-07-2007 08:34:49

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-06-2007 21:58:32

I'm getting a better understanding of this tractor. I was pretty sure that was a bunch of water in there. Down here in Tx its a freezing 60 degrees. The tractor does sit outside. I think it will be taking a ride from the farm back down here. I have a operators manual on the way. I have read through most of the service manual to get an understanding of where everything is. I just didnt see anywhere where it told me how much oil it needed. I know there is always the fail safe method of pouring some in, waiting a while checking the level, and poring more in till you reach the desired amount.

I just found the fluid capacity specs. Thanks.

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Aaron Ford

12-09-2007 06:02:49

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-07-2007 08:34:49

The first time I did this, I poured the oil in til it showed full on the stick. It took all 10 gallons. I went to bed and the next morning oil was running out of the dipstick hole...

I found that it takes some time to find its way all the way back to the dipstick.

Now I fill 'em up to within a gallon (or a half gallon) of what it should be, let it set and pour in the last gallon a day or so later.

Around here, the lube comes in five gallon buckets, so I pour 2-3 gallons (dependent upon whether it is a 7 or 8 gallon job) out into a clean, known capacity bucket and fill the tractor with what remains in the buckets. This prevents the overfill that I became instantly famous for...

Hope it works out for ya,

Aaron

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Aaron Ford

12-07-2007 08:18:45

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-06-2007 21:58:32

I am not going to repeat the good information given below by 135 fan, but I would like to add A few things. First, the oil should be clear/brown or clear/bluish. The white milky stuff is water/oil mix that has found it's way into your gearcase. The high level is due to the water plus the oil. This will also cause some seals to start leaking as prior they merely had to contend with splash, not complete immersion in the oil that they have with the level so high.

My tractor had not been run and the oil and water were still seperate. I pulled the plug and 4 gallons of water came pouring out. The oil, which looked clean, was junked. Had I run it and got it good and mixed up, it would have certainly been white.

Some folks like to pour in 5 gallons of diesel and run the tractor with one wheel off the ground in all gears to be sure that the gunk is gone. I did this with great success. Be careful not to put a load on it. You should hear when it is time to shut it down and drain the diesel. You will begin to hear the gears meshing and unmeshing. At this point, drain, and refill.

I had an odd thought after doing my last relube. I bought 10 gallons of lube, but only needed 8. I now figure I should have poured two gallons in the case and rinsed the diesel out and redrained prior to putting in the 8 gallons that was going to stay there.....

Anyone got any thoughts on this? Would the two gallons been enough to make a difference?

Aaron

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Aaron Ford

12-07-2007 08:32:06

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to Aaron Ford, 12-07-2007 08:18:45

Oops, Supergrumy posted in between the time that I had read the post and replyed. Good information there too... Here are pics of my froze/busted pump. BTW, the previopus owner asked me several times when I was picking up the tractor, "You are a mechanic, right?" The last time he asked he handed me the stand pipe....

Cheers, Aaron

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supergrumpy

12-07-2007 06:38:05

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-06-2007 21:58:32

if tractor sat outside and rubber on shifter is bad, you might have lots of water in there, if it freezes say, inside a pump, you can figure out what can happen, stored in heated area is OK

note: trany holds plenty of oil

unless you know age of coolant, flushing and replacing would be good idea, as a first step buy anti-freeze tester and find out how much protection you have against low temps

kinda late in the season for this kinda maintenance

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135 Fan

12-06-2007 23:12:59

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Re: MF 135 transmission question, along with maintance in reply to TimMiller, 12-06-2007 21:58:32

You need to get a manual. The MF manual is the best. The trans./hydr. oil does have water in it and needs to be changed. MF Perma-tran III is the oil to use. Again, I think the best thing you can do is get a manual for the tractor. It will have the info you need and be a handy reference. If you don't have a lot of experience with tractors it might be a good idea to get a dealer to do the first service for you. Then they could look the whole tractor over for you. It could be money well spent. Dave

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