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M5 output shaft removal

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Keith

03-18-2003 17:52:47




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I am trying to remove the output shaft from a running M5. I have followed the repair manual, but still no luck. It appears that it wants to hang up on the area ahead of the pto/pully gear assembly at the rear of the shaft. There isn't any ridge on the shaft surface. Is there something that the repair manual does not address that is affected by wear, tear and time? Thanks for any help.




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Curt Cooke

03-19-2003 06:56:07




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 Re: M5 output shaft removal in reply to Keith, 03-18-2003 17:52:47  
This will be of no help but for what little it's worth, I've done this before. I followed the MM service manual to the letter and had no problem. I recall snap rings, set screws, etc. in places hard to get at.



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keith

03-19-2003 18:21:32




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 Re: Re: M5 output shaft removal in reply to Curt Cooke, 03-19-2003 06:56:07  
I looked closer at the exploded view and there is a bushing on the ID of the rear gear set. I think it is froze to the shaft and knocking against the rear bearing set. Maybe it's time for the sawz-all??



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jk

03-20-2003 15:39:45




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 Re: Re: Re: M5 output shaft removal in reply to keith, 03-19-2003 18:21:32  
Before you do something drastic like cutting the shaft, have you done the following:

1. remove the nut from the front of clutch assembly (the round one with a bent into a notch)?

2. loosen the adjusting nut until the actuator assembly & clutch disks slide off the front?

3. remove the cotter pin in the allen set screw
and the allen set screw itself that was previously hidden by the clutches?

4. slide the drive hub ahead and the main shaft back enough to remove the key from the shaft between the drive hub and the clutch drum?

If you have done these things the shaft should come out. I have seen them be stuborn but have never seen the brass bushing gauld to the shaft.

John

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Keith

03-20-2003 16:30:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: M5 output shaft removal in reply to jk, 03-20-2003 15:39:45  
Yes to all.

It was was pretty smooth sailing up to the point you need to drive the shaft rearward. The tractor is not split and I do not have a "suitable puller", so I tried driving it rearward with a hammer and punch, seating on the detent for the allen head set screw located 180 degrees from the keyway where the key was.

You can see the shaft move about 1/4" back and you can move it by hand, but it hits against the rear bearing and from what I can see (as I cannot measure - too tight) it appears the bushing travels with the shaft and is butting up against the rear bearing. It also looks like someone brazed in the rear bearing, there are burn marks on the casting and brazing around the bearing case. Te bearing case does slide out of the casting, 1/16" or better.

The rear gear assembly is loose on the shaft too. The darn shaft should just glide right out the rear, but it doesn't.

This is why I am at witts end with this thing.

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