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angelique

03-11-2005 13:42:35

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since a month i'm the owner of a MM G1355. who can tell me something more about this type tractor, how many there were build, where i can get parts ( i need some for the front axle), if there was original a rollbar on it. and can it be used as tractorpuller.

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J. Schwiebert

03-12-2005 12:31:33

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to angelique, 03-11-2005 13:42:35

Well first of all you did not say if it LP or diesel. Second I would guess you have a yellow one. I have a friend who has a green one and the decals say Oliver. I just had my parts book out for this model about 10 days ago. It was also sold in Canda as a White 2270. The roll bar would not have been standard. Remember from the clutch back it is pretty well an Oliver.

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angelique

03-13-2005 03:55:11

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-12-2005 12:31:33

I have a Diesel and it's a Yellow one, like you thought. The Roll bar wasn.t standard, so if i need one i have to fix it myself, or are there related types with roll bar which i can use.

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dirtjockey

03-11-2005 20:30:53

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to angelique, 03-11-2005 13:42:35

I have did some work on this subject of trying to find the true numbers on production. MM used unique number for there tractors and engines. If you look at the engine serial number it will tell you more that the tractor serial number. I have a friend that has both a G955LP and a G1355lp, with out giving his serial numbers out, its in the 60's for the 1974 G955. Not many built. You will find that out for the G1355's too. Remember MM usually started with one on its numbers, but on the 55 series they are warmed over 50 series numbers and they start at 2000.

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F M-M

03-12-2005 18:55:57

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to dirtjockey, 03-11-2005 20:30:53

Dirtjockey: You said the engine serial # could tell more than the tractor #. We bought ours in about 1990 and I was told then it was one of the last ones built. The serial # is 252589-401. I checked my book and they don't make any reference to #s that end like this -401. I'm wondering if that last part could be the actual production count or what it could be for. My engine is the 585 and the serial on it is 45202991. I checked the engine Serial # on our A4T-1400 that was repowered with a 585 and that has engine # 45200575. I bet that is only the 575th 585 built. They only used up 322 in the 1350 Diesels & 1190 in the a4t-1600 diesels. The rest probably were used to repower. Using this idea then our 1355 would have the 2991st engine. That sounds about right. About 16oo engines used before the G-1355 and about 1600 used in the 1355s yellow, green and red??? I know by the tractor serial # ours is a 74 and if they ended with 252710 then mine would be 121 from the end of production but where did they start? It would be nice to know how many they made for sure.

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J. Schwiebert

03-14-2005 15:12:01

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-12-2005 18:55:57

Your serial number is 252 589. 401 is the code for the transmission final drive combination. Oliver used a 3 digit number for this code since the first Super 55 tractor in 1954. I used to work for an Oliver dealer and we sold two A4T 1400 diesels with factory installed turbos. So did they have a different identifier?

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freddy

03-13-2005 07:33:00

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-12-2005 18:55:57

430 G1050 Tractor - 504A-6 LP Engine Row Crop & Std. 431 G1050 Tractor - D504A-6 Diesel Engine Row Crop & Std. 432 G1350 Tractor - 504B-6 LP Gas Row Crop 433 G1350 Tractor - D585-6 Diesel Row Crop 434 G950 Tractor - 425C-6 Gasoline Row crop & Std. 435 G950 Tractor - 425C-6 LP Gas Row Crop & Std. 436 G950 Tractor - D451-6 Diesel Row Crop & Std. 439 A4T-1400 Tractor - D504A-6 Diesel 440 G750 Tractor - 336A-4 Gasoline row Crop & Std. 441 G750 Tractor - 336A-4 LP Gas Row Crop & Std. 442 G750 Tractor - D336A-4 Diesel Row Crop & Std. 443 504A-6 LP Gas Engine - G1050 444 D504A-6 Diesel Engine - G1050 445 425C-6 Gasoline Engine - G950 446 425C-6 LP Gas Engine - G950 447 D451-6 Diesel Engine - G950 448 336A-4 Gasoline Engine - G750 449 336A-4 LP Gas Engine - G750 450 D336A-4 Diesel Engine - G750 451 504B-6 LP Gas Engine - G1350 452 D5l85-6 Diesel Engine - G1350 453 G1350 Tractor - 504B-6 LP Gas (Wheatland) 454 220A-4 Gasoline Engine PCM Pkg. 80 455 D236-4 Diesel Engine PCM Pkg. 81 456 A4T-1600 Tractor - D585-6 Diesel

Here is a list of prefixes for the 50 series. as you can see the prefix for the A$T and the G1350 are different.

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J. Schwiebert

03-14-2005 15:17:59

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to freddy, 03-13-2005 07:33:00

What about the 585 engines made for the 2-150 tractors. How about the units made in Charles City? How about the ones made in Arkansas? Were ever any made with natural gas pistons?

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Dirtjockey

03-14-2005 16:50:26

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-14-2005 15:17:59

That is a good question about the 2-150s D585. I have never looked into this, It would be intersting to look at one and see what they used for a serial number Code. White made a lot made a lot of D585's

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Dirtjockey

03-14-2005 16:50:18

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-14-2005 15:17:59

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Dirtjockey

03-13-2005 07:17:04

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-12-2005 18:55:57

They started the serial number off at 2000 for the Engines so that would make it the 991st engine made specifically for the 55 series. By the way we have a reengines A4t-1400 too. serial number 94.

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F M-M

03-13-2005 14:14:35

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to Dirtjockey, 03-13-2005 07:17:04

Our A4T-1400 is serial no. 28 Did you mean that they used different engine serial numbers for each different tractor model they used that engine in? I would have thought they would have just continued the numbers up as the newer tractor models developed.

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Dirt jockey

03-13-2005 17:12:13

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-13-2005 14:14:35

MM was very good at separating serial numbers in the end. The prefixes of 452 was for Diesel 1350's while 451 was for the LP G1350's. A4T-1600 diesels got 456 and A4T LP's got 457.

Our A4T-1400 has a engine serial number that starts with 456, meaning the engine either came from a A4T-1600 or was a spare for that tractor.

The G1355 in all of it's different colors and styles still only used the warmed over G1350 engine serial number prefix of 456 and 457. The call that MM/Oliver made thousands of G1355's and G955's just doesn't hold water. It my best guess from following serial numbers " I would guess maybe 2400 tractors total,But proving that is another story. Which compared to 50 series number was a great success

The factory even gave out special engine prefixes for the turboed TD585 -prefix 467 and the HD800 powered A4t and G1350's of 460. Now I have never actual seen these serial number prefixes but they were recorded.

Looking at our A4t-1400, I once was enticed to bid on a original A4t-1400 with 504 diesel in it. After seeing the engine serial number of 431XXX I knew it had come from a G1050 and that is was not original. MM numbering system makes it quite transparent to the bidder what might have happened.

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F M-M

03-13-2005 19:46:12

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to Dirt jockey, 03-13-2005 17:12:13

Thanks for all the info. That makes things clearer. Looks like my 1400 was repowered with the G-1350 585 engine which makes sense but for some reason my 1355 has the same prefex (452). I can see some green paint showing up on the jugs so they were replaced once before I got it but not on the crankcase. I'll bet your pretty close on your guess of 2400 55 sreies tractors built too.

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Dirt jockey

03-14-2005 09:08:33

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-13-2005 19:46:12

Yes, your prefix would be 452 for a diesel G1355, I take it the oliver partnership in this tractor did not give or would not give it a new prefix but reused the G1350 prefix with a stating point of 2000. So in theory the first G1355 diesel engine serial number was 45202001

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JoeMN

03-14-2005 20:38:56

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to Dirt jockey, 03-14-2005 09:08:33

Our 2270 White has Eng # 452 02563. Serial # is 245 433 401.

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oliverfan

03-12-2005 07:57:56

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to dirtjockey, 03-11-2005 20:30:53

A number of years ago, when the Charles City plant was still in operation, I was able to find out a little info on the G955's. They were built two years, with a total of 930 tractors built. I was not able to get a breakdown on the LP Gas-- Diesel numbers. Later I found out there were green Oliver G955's built, but I think they would have been inclued in the total. I do not think the red 1870 Whites were inclued, as those numbers would have been different. I know the G1355 were built for three yoars, but I have no idea how many were built.

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J. Schwiebert

03-12-2005 12:34:38

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to oliverfan, 03-12-2005 07:57:56

We sold one of those G-955 models as an Oliver. Once we got it in tune so to speak it was very close to 95-98 Horsepower. They were apealing to the guy that wanted a new tractor and a slow running engine.

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F M-M

03-11-2005 18:27:16

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to angelique, 03-11-2005 13:42:35

The 1355 was only made in 73 & 74. Most of them had a factory cab with roll protection. The serial #s start at 236440 and end with 252710 but they used Oliver #s. I don't know how many were made but if you went by the serials it would be over 16,000. That seems like an awful lot but they made some for Oliver too. Maybe someone can tell us something more. I want to know too. The front axel on mine is the same as on a late model G-1000 Vista and a 2-155 White so parts should be easy to find. If it is a diesel, it will have the 585 engine. They used the Oliver transmission with the over/under shift. I'm sure it can be made to pull.

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terrydfoss

03-12-2005 11:09:22

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to F M-M, 03-11-2005 18:27:16

I HAVE OLIVER G 1355 DIESEL THAT CAME OUT THE FACTORY WITH AN EXP TURBO AND A MODEL A BOSCH INJECTION PUMP .TRANSMISSION IS A 6 SPEED ONLY.I HAVE BEEN PULLING IT FOR 2 YEARS WITH GREAT SUCCESS. TRACTOR HAS ONLY 1268 ORIGINAL HOURS IT WAS GREAT FIND!I WAS TOLD ONLY ABOUT 500 GREEN OLIVERS EXIST. LOT MORE YELLOW ONES OUT THERE. SOME RED WHITE 2270 OUT THERE TOO

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Freddy

03-13-2005 17:21:29

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to terrydfoss, 03-12-2005 11:09:22

I was at the salvage yard the other day and came across a junked 2655 oliver the serial numbers are in the same MM A4t numbering system. Looks to me that MM counted them as MM's even though they were green.

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angelique

03-13-2005 04:12:09

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to terrydfoss, 03-12-2005 11:09:22

Hello Terry, you said you have a green one with turbo and bosch pump out the factory. do you know if there also where yellow diesels like i got, with turbo and bosch pump right out the factory. and if so are there specifications of that. I need to know because when i want to use it for tractorpulling here in the Netherlands, without turbo in the 7500 kg standard klasse, it would not do much. otherwise when i put a turbo on it and it's not build in the factory, i have to drive 5500kg supersport and that means i have to loose weight. can you send me a picture from your tractor with the turbo and bosch pump.

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J. Schwiebert

03-14-2005 15:16:03

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to angelique, 03-13-2005 04:12:09

A field package called an altitude compensator was available for the 585 engines. It was a turbocharger. I probably have a set of instructions on how to install it.

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angelique

03-16-2005 04:59:32

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-14-2005 15:16:03

i bought a parts manual, but i won't have it for the next three weeks. Do you know if that field package is mentioned in the manual? Or if some of these tractors were delivered from the factory with that package. Those instructions your talking about, can you copie them for me, i'm willing to pay it.

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Karl1870

03-12-2005 18:23:31

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to terrydfoss, 03-12-2005 11:09:22

Here is a picture of a White 1870 and a White 2270.

C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Desktop\Tractors\18702270.jpg

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Karl1870

03-12-2005 19:04:35

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Re: MM G1355 in reply to Karl1870, 03-12-2005 18:23:31

Here is a picture of a White 1870 and a White 2270.

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