: : : I have been following this thread with a great : : deal of interest. I am somewhat reluctant to add : : a post due to the fact that some of you people : : evidently are very knowlegeable on this subject. : : My question: When you stroke a MM engine, what do : : you do about rods? Do you find a suitable replace- : : ment off the shelf, or do you cut and weld an : : original? Sorry if this seems like a "stupid : : question", but I have no experience in this area : : and am curious as to how you engine builders go : : about this. : : A new post to move this discussion to the top : : : of the pile. : : : I have been following along and wish to add my : : : two cents.It has been said that these tractor : : : engines have little in common with automotive : : : engines, which is not true.They are both Otto : : : four cycle engines.The principles to improve : : : engine performance within a given RPM range are : : : the same! : : : That said, rod/stroke ratio is important to max- : : : imizing power because of its' relationship to cam- : : : shaft specifications.Translated, that means the : : : valves need to be open and closed to seal maximum : : : pressure in the cylinder.Valve movement needs to : : : be timed just like ignition does.Piston acceleration : : : with lower rod ratios happens sooner, in crankshaft : : : degrees,than with higher ratios.Two engines, identical : : : except for rod lenth, would need to have the camshaft : : : "degreed" differently to make the most power. : : : IHRA pro stock cars have 800 plus c.i. with rod : : : ratios low as 1.25, the point being not to give the : : : competition a cubic inch advantage for a better rod : : : ratio.Even though racing V-8s rev much higher than : : : pulling engines, they still operate in a narrow rpm : : : range,similar to pulling. : : : Acceleration is crucial to pulling, even antiques : : : because momentum will help you go farther, especially : : : in classes under 5500 lbs.Otherwise, why would we : : : need taller gears and faster ring and pinions? : : : To help compare engines of similar horsepower but : : : different displacement, remember this formula. : : : torque times rpm divided by 5252 equals horsepower. : Replacement rods for stroker applications are often from : other engines. An engine is laid out on paper, a length is : geusstimate is made, and you start looking for something close. : Often when offset grinding a crank a small rod journal big end : is welded to the little end of the original rod to : get the correct length. Farmall H big ends are a common donors : when using this method. Custom rods, forged and billet, are : now available from several manufacturers. While expensive, : these do gaurantee the rod is not twisted or bent. Hope this : helps you, remember a "stupid" question is cheaper than a : "stupid" mistake!
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