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MM M-5 General ?

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rhudson

05-03-2001 20:59:02




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For some reason i think i want a M5. Don't know anything about Molines. There is one 4 hours away and one 3 hours away from me. Could some of you fellows tell me what you consider the good and bad points of this tractor and what too look for if i drive to look at them. I have no use for the tractors other than collecting, but i could press it into use on the farm if need be. Thanks robert of halifax, va

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Tony

05-13-2001 19:15:10




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 Re: MM M-5 General ? in reply to rhudson, 05-03-2001 20:59:02  
I've got an M5 I brought back from nearly dead and now use pretty regularly. It's a relatively sturdy & simple machine, and you can get at most parts or adjustments fairly easily. Some internal parts can be a headache, tho.

Some headaches I hit that you could avoid ...

If it's a diesel, look on the exhaust manifold side of engine for 4 large hex plugs on the cylinder heads (one per cyl). These cover the energy chambers. Start it, and as it warms, keep touching those hex plugs - they should warm up pretty evenly; a slow one may be worn injector (no biggie) or burned up energy chamber (yes biggie). Once it's warm, slow it to idle. This takes some practice, but tells a lot: pull the diesel shutoff briefly to let the engine slow a little below idle, then push it back in. Engine should come right back. Pull again a little longer. Keep increasing the amount you slow the engine before letting it fire back up. If you can let it slow to half of idle and still bring it back, all is very good. If slowing it only a little causes it to die out, it's very likely a worn injector pump. If Roosa-Master pump, no biggie. But worn Bosch pump is a big $$ pain.

Drive it around a while, 10-15 min until hydraulics warm up. Put it in 1st gear, slow engine to idle, and see if power steering still works well. Park it w/ engine in idle, you & owner (or anyone else) stand on 3-pt arms, and run the lift up/down. Speed up engine & repeat. If lift is weak or less than half as fast at idle, hydraulic pump is likely about gone; not good & some variants are not replaceable any more.

If there's a nice long hill, repeatedly drive up it at a good clip & watch the temp guage. If it gets hot, walk away from that machine! The front axle casting is the lower radiator tank, and the core bolts on with dozens of small bolts that are very likely seized & will break off. You can drill & helicoil, but it's a huge pain.

Hope this doesn't scare you off. Once put right, my M5 has been a nice machine.

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rhudson thanks for info tony and roger

05-14-2001 21:50:39




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 Re: Re: MM M-5 General ? in reply to Tony, 05-13-2001 19:15:10  
yikes! thanks for the problem points tony.



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Roger

05-04-2001 05:47:04




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 Re: MM M-5 General ? in reply to rhudson, 05-03-2001 20:59:02  
I own 4 M5's, so remember I m predudice. I use them every day on my farm. Let the tractor warm up. Check to see if the ampli tourqe will hold in the low range. If it slips, it will need to be fixed. Listen to the starter while cranking. If it is noisy the nose cone may be broke. You can still buy them, buy they are expensive. 2nd gear was the normal work gear, so listen for any noise while driving it. Adjustable front - look to see if the spindles are twisted. Are the arms the same distance from the tire. If it has had a loader on it they may be bent. Standard front - look underneath the front end at the steering arm. See if it is broke and welded. These are things that happen to loader tractors. Otherwise look for the normal wear and tear on it. Remember, these tractors are 41 to 36 years old.

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