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1943-1944 ZTU War Model

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Trever Maas

01-30-2002 16:20:59




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What did they do differently on this model during the war? Where can I find some information about that model during the year? Anything will help.
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Trever




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DLP

02-01-2002 06:37:43




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 Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Trever Maas, 01-30-2002 16:20:59  
I don't believe my my last followup went thru, so I'll try again. I believe the "war years" Z was one that had steel wheels, steel steering wheel, magneto ignition, & no electrics. Later, towards the end of the war, the restrictions on rubber was eased up & they went back to rubber tires, electric start, etc. I am in the final stages of restoring a '47 ZTU. I got my info from shop manuals, books, & junkyards. I noticed some restored tractors had an owners "personal touches" which were not factory. An excellent source is Welters Farm Supply in Verona, Mo. They have acres of MM's and are some of the nicest & most helpful people you'll ever meet.

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Trever Maas

01-31-2002 17:24:08




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 Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Trever Maas, 01-30-2002 16:20:59  
I think it has a place for the push button. I actually have a 43 and 44 that are running but don't know which one to completely restore. Also have an early-model MTA. On the ZTU's, they both have battery cables and I have a starter that I could install.



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galen

01-31-2002 13:41:05




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 Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Trever Maas, 01-30-2002 16:20:59  
From all the old dealers and farmers that I have talked to about war years tractors. Each company was allowed to make just so many of each model for public sale. A dealer signed into a lottery to draw 1 of these tractors. When a dealer did receive one he had names on a list who were waiting for tractors. Veterans were supposed to be at the top of these lists. I've heard of vets buying these tractors and rerselling for a reason able profit. Did cause some resentment sometimes. Most of the war tractors came on steel with no starters or lights. But some did come out with electical on them just not very many. As far as rubber it was asuppesed scarcity during the war so very few came out on rubber in my part of the country till 45-46. A fellow mentioned a black market tractor, these were usually tractors manufactured with in house parts and drove out the backdoor of the plant without being counted in the alottment for that year.

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Aaron

01-30-2002 16:43:59




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 Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Trever Maas, 01-30-2002 16:20:59  
I honestly don't know of all that much they did different as far as the ZT series goes. However, my late grandfather had an RTU that was referred to as a "black market RTU," which he researched extensively. The differences there were the serial number, not the model, was scratched out, no lights, just a starter and generator, no fenders, and it was painted Twin City gray, with nothing being Prairie Gold nor Red. Basically, it was a very basic model. Rather interesting but a very neat piece. I know this doesn't help, but thought I would through it in.

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Trever Maas

01-30-2002 17:01:26




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 Re: Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Aaron, 01-30-2002 16:43:59  
Yeah, this one seems to have lights, battery cables, and a starter is optional. There is like a dash panel on the front of the battery box with about 3 different knobs. So there must be a way to have a starter. I'm not having good luck finding information on the ZTU.



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Kelvin

01-31-2002 13:26:39




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 Re: Re: Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Trever Maas, 01-30-2002 17:01:26  
I have a '38 ZTU. Somehow there seems to be little interest in them. I realize it is not a war-year tractor, but I have seen one sold this summer that had steel wheels,(been cutoff) no electrics, and a cast-iron five spoke steering wheel like the KTA used. I was pretty sure it was made during the war.
Lots of the early MM's did not come with full electrics. One of my cousins had a '40 ZTS that had no generator, or instrument panel, but did have a battery box and starter. He bought that tractor in the fifties. My guess is that the idea was the owner would add the rest of the electrical equipment later.
Look below the dash panel on yours. it should have a place for a large push button for the starter.

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Trever Maas

01-31-2002 17:20:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1943-1944 ZTU War Model in reply to Kelvin, 01-31-2002 13:26:39  
I think it has a place for the push button. I actually have a 43 and 44 that are running but don't know which one to completely restore. Also have an early-model MTA. On the ZTU's, they both have battery cables and I have a starter that I could install.



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