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Paul8n

06-15-2001 07:48:19




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I found a golden jubulee with a backhoe on it. Also has a front dozer blade with up down hyd. Has downriggers and a 12 speed tranny. Original scripted hood and fenders, 6v seems real nice. They are asking 4900.00. Tires good also with new rear rims. Can't find serial number though. Thanks for the input. Paul




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buck

06-15-2001 12:23:51




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 Re: Whats this worth? in reply to Paul8n, 06-15-2001 07:48:19  

Paul what I am going to tell you is because I have been there When looking for my first tractor i contacted an old friend and ask if he knew of an old tractor that i could get cheep. sure do he says i still got that old jubilee you used to use when you worked for me and the hoe still works but it is useless and the loader is still good but useless without the hoe. He sold the entire rig to me for $1000 and then said that he would help me remove the hoe and loader.I ask why and he said because you ain't got a way to remove it and you ain't got a way to move it if it breaks down and you ain't got the money to but the parts to fix it if it does break down and ALL you need is a tractor.We spent a day removing the hoe with the help of his newer hoe and found the pto completely shot,no 3pt components and a 3pt system that had probably never been used. All those components went on his trailer and he said that he would keep what he got at the junk yard and I quickly agreed. I ask why not keep the loader and he said that without the hoe it is worthless but i decided to keep it as my first job with it was going to be to move some dirt. first time i drove it into the pile of dirt and raised the lift I knew what worthless ment. I was able to sell the loader for enough to get the 3pt operational and then I had what I had wanted in the first place. That jubilee is still my favorite toy and a real workhorse. Think it over

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THANK YOU ALL

06-15-2001 11:00:05




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 Re: Whats this worth? in reply to Paul8n, 06-15-2001 07:48:19  
Thanks for the replies, I will check her for serial number and cracks and what not. Will spend sometime there on monday and make sure this is a good deal. Paul



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9N'er

06-15-2001 09:19:34




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 Re: Whats this worth? in reply to Paul8n, 06-15-2001 07:48:19  
hey Paul8N, 4900 for what you describe appears to be a fair deal for the buyer. For the seller, he may get an additional 500, 700, or even 1,000.00 if he waited or conditions were ripe to sell it to someone (additional 1k may be pushing the limit, but it's not unheard of..... ..).

My gut reaction says, go for it. Then common sense tells me this:

Check for cracked block, or rear differential housing. CHeck all the castings well for cracks or possible splits. I'm not an expert, but I am getting to know the tractor shops and mechanics around here, and two of the best told me that the NAA's seems susceptible to cracking on the rear housing.

The Sherman backhoe does stress these tracotrs, but used appropriately and with care, the tractor should be fine.

Also, does the backhoe have a full frame mount and tie into a front bracket under the front bushing etc? That's good if it does. It helps distribute the stresses on the frame. They are heavy units.

A decent Sherman backhoe can go for 1500 to 2300 plus or minus.

A decent and running NAA in good hape could go for as much as 3500+ plus or minus (or more depending on variables).

Definitely give the tractor a good going over, and run it hot and check the fluids for water. Also carefully look inside the rear housing if you can for cracks. Use a light, or look wicked carefully. That could be a setback if ya got to replace it!

Of course oil pressure and see if he has any valid compression readings. Pull the plugs and check for oil fouling. Check temp gauge etc. etc.

You know this, but I am typing it for others like me to save them the heart ache of buying something and it turns out less than hoped for. been there and done that...so far so good with tractors however. 9N'er

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Paul8n

06-15-2001 18:19:07




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 Re: Re: Whats this worth? in reply to 9N'er, 06-15-2001 09:19:34  
It does have an underneth frame for mounting the backhoe. It ties in with the front dozer blade, actually quite a set up together. So much so that it has to have a vertical exhaust. Anything else you can think off will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much, Paul



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tlak

06-15-2001 09:05:18




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 Re: Whats this worth? in reply to Paul8n, 06-15-2001 07:48:19  
If you work back down the price and subtract the add ons; Estimated values $4900 - $600sherman = $4300 - $1500backhoe = $2800 - $300front blade = $2500 so you come out with a pretty cheap tractor. If you can verify thats its a Golden Jub your getting a pretty good deal. I attached a site with SN locations.



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Minnesota Fats

06-15-2001 08:26:41




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 Re: Whats this worth? in reply to Paul8n, 06-15-2001 07:48:19  

If it is a good clean machine, the price sounds fair. But hey, might as well make a lower offer first. Make sure they throw in the trolling boards along with those downriggers!



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