9N looses power, up hills and pulling

Lets see, It saves gas by "allowing more fuel to be burned." It burns faster (which is a lower octane number), and increases octane ratings (which is a slower burn). It's more stable by its increased volatility.

Truly fascinating.

"Scientifically documented" at an undisclosed laboratory somewhere....

Gas line magnet endorsements to follow soon I suppose. :-(

Dr. Stull must be quite the miraculous man, being able to re-write the basic laws of thermodynamics and chemistry with a sleigh of his hand. Rendering the Carnot cycle null and void, and blowing away the requirement of a catalyst to exit the process. Truly an amazing fella!

Wonder if he's aquainted with a "Dr" who works here with me? He's invented an anti-gravitational propulsion system that was stolen from him by NASA to be used in clandestine UFO experiments and time travel.

The Air Force as experts on fuel? Hell, the Navy's had JP-5 for years, and it's a far better and safer fuel then the JP-8 the Air Force created much later. All because the Air Force is to petty and jelous to use the Navies superior product. The Air Force would rather let their crewmen die every year then admit the Navy did something well.

Oh, and as for that confidentiality screen, I've got a Top Secret clearance, with need to know authorization based on my work in the environmental regulation and evaluation of combustion byproducts of rocket fuel usage, operations, and experimental research. That's part of the reason I know that what works on rockets doesn't simply apply to internal combustion engines operating low in the atmosphere.

Perhaps "Captain Kapok" should include some of his microscopic lead ball bearings in there to allow the exhaust gasses to roll out better or something. Perhaps they could lower the combustion temperature to make it hotter, or squeeze down the size to make it bigger.

I was not making fun of someones screen name. That name "Captain Kapok" is the web address of the snake oil company marketing a few additives that will do everything from solving the national debt to curing acne. A web address of Captain Kapok is not in the league of a web address like Exxon or Penzoil, or even Tri-flo. Viewing the web page is enough to set off the rest of the warning bells.

If a person wants to use the gimick or treatment of their choice, I've no problem with them using them in their own engines and toys. I've used a few myself. Even been known to home brew some, things like "Ed's Red" which a few gun nuts may recognize. While I think it's going to be darn hard to make a better motor oil then what the big players like Mobil make, I'm not so naive as to believe it impossible. But the mere existence of a MilSpec number doesn't make me go ga-ga.

My 'issue' as it were, or is, has to do with hawking the product, which Mike did, and giving flat out bad information, which he also did. Those are a couple of sore spots with me. This is far different then Zane hawking his Thang in my opinion.

If you were to post a message saying you had used Slick 50 with good results, I'd have no beef with you. I'd disagree with you about the product, but I'm not going to say you couldn't have seen the good results you have seen. The recent threads about using synthetic oils are a good example of this.

But if you were to shill or hawk for Slick 50, I'd definately have a beef with you. Especially if the advertising you were doing is flat wrong, and rather pointedly if you'd been telling people to do things that would destroy their equipment. Which Mike has done, repeatedly. Re, his postings telling people they must not use the proper lubricants in their drivetrains.

So yes, it's the "real" me. No evil twins, no psychotic dual personalities (at least not on official medical records). I'll try wringing a chickens neck tonight though and see if I feel better. :-)

Regardless, I have made no impuning remarks upon the personal character or integrity of Dr Still. I have challenged his claims on the basis of fundamental physics and thermodynamics. That is not arrogant, that is basic science.

My claims are all a matter of public record. While not very scientific, you can certainly contact the Air Force and check on my record with them. Other refutations (note, this is different then making a claim myself) of the absurd and contradictory claims made by your referenced Dr and the marketing company are easily checked by utilizing any science text covering basic physics or basic thermodynamics.

I will not argue that you may well have seen good results with this product yourself. Nor am I arguing against the use of a fuel stabilizer when an engine is placed in storage with fuel still in the system. I will argue against the wild claims of Captain Kapok, Dr Still, and yourself as it relates to the miraculous wonders of this fuel elixor. I will also strongly argue against your extremely foolish claims that one should not use a proper gear lubricant in a gear train.

You present yourself as a quasi-expert and marketing shill on the subject, which does indeed open you up to proper attacks on the ill merrits of your claims. Especially in light of the repeated past corrections you've received from people far more expert in the subject of lubrication then yourself.

The farmer with the 8N that put in the special additive to the gas, put in the "Hitfire" spark plugs, added electronic ignition, magnets to the fuel line, not to mention "Motoring Up Honey" to the oil, converted to 12 volts with special coil-----

plowed the field for and hour and his gas tank overflowed!!

:-)

JerryU

"Coors Light??" I'm ready !(-:

As for your problem, could be a host of things. From not getting adequate gas (top off the tank and see), to poor tune, or even engine seizure. I/we would need some more information to really be able to help.

Thanks

First, put some gas in the tank and see if that takes care of the problem. As in go ahead and refill it.

Second, check the action of the governor. Look at your carburetor and you will see two rods attached to it on the back side. One goes to the dashboard and is the choke. The other goes forward and connects to the governor. Mark that rod so you can watch it. Now ride your tractor and start to go up a hill. Watch that rod. It should move to open the throttle a bit as you start going up the hill.

Let us know what you see with that rod, and we can do some followup.