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I just don't get it.

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Sal

07-21-2001 15:08:11




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A guy I work with has an old farm house and dairy barn with 10 acres of land. He head been looking at a number of older farm tractors to buy, including N's. He ended up going to look at the new JD's and they hooked him into buying a glorified lawn mower. He got a 18 HP and a 54" cut with some front hydraulics for almost $4,000 even and he financed it with JD at 12.9% interest (yes, that is what they call a 'loan sale'). Plus he want's to get the snow blower attachment now for about $1,150.

He said that he liked the fact that he would have to do no repairs to the machine since it had a warranty, I think it is for 18 or 24 months. Plus he got financing, heck a bank loan is less than 12.9% around here, and no payments til October. He just looked at the paper work and groaned when he realized I was right by telling him he will still generate interest expense on the loan til he makes the first payment. Oh, and it is a 36 month loan.

Between the $4k for the machine plus the interest expense they could have got a real nice N and a attachment or two.

He said that he isn't a mechanic like me, heck if I am no mechanic at all, I say a prayer and look for someone to help me.

Sorry for spouting off, but I just can't understand how or why he spent money this way, especially when he doesn't have much. And the kicker is that he is talking about a little 4x4 JD with a loader for around $20K, so he can do the big projects...I just don't get it, probably because I am cheap.

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Ed Gooding (VA)

07-22-2001 05:23:59




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 Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Sal, 07-21-2001 15:08:11  
Hey Sal! I experienced the same thing recently. Was in the Richmond Southern States and looking over the new "crop" of lawn tractors while waiting for them to get me something. They just picked up the Cub Cadet line. Was looking at the top model on display and it was $5,700 bucks!! Yeah, FIFTY SEVEN HUNDRED BUCKS!! That was with NO accessories. A decent finish mowing deck was going to add another couple grand to it! No cat-1 hitch, just a well-built lawn tractor, but heck, I could go get a couple of N's and a hog and a finish mower for that, and have the extra utility of the cat-1 hitch. The yuppie suburbanites in Richmond are apparently snapping them up. Another thing to brag about, along with the new Lexus or Beemer, I guess????

Take care..... ..Ed
'52 8N475798

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Ray

07-22-2001 10:39:16




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 Re: Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 07-22-2001 05:23:59  
5700 bucks worth of plastic,aluminum,wires,lines,buzzers,warning indicators,fiberglass,sensors,switches and probes and for what? To do the same things that my old Case VAS has been doing for the last 48 years without all that CRAP!!! There will never be (in 50 years) a group of people like you guys who rebuild these machines and use them when they get old, they will just be scrapped for the gold value in the wiring connectors or something and replaced with a newer version with even more CRAP than the old ones. I never have and never will understand why the manufacturers have to complicate things like they do i live by the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid)

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smokie

07-21-2001 19:06:02




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 Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Sal, 07-21-2001 15:08:11  
yall know i just rebuilt my n i paid 2500 for it worked it hard for a year she started to smoke (hence the name) got my parts from don about 500$ rebuilt it had a lot of fun with that payed around 700 for hog, disc, boxblade, rake,and 2 bottum plow . marcia says are you shure it is worth it so i took her with me to macclenn tractor and showed her the tafes (massy) and the kabodas it is all very clear to her now . it is your freind that dose not get it we all understand quit claerly. lol

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Dumb Logger

07-21-2001 18:03:31




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 Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Sal, 07-21-2001 15:08:11  
And....the really good part is, the only thing J.D. about that Yanmar is the paint,whose economy is he helping?



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Ray

07-21-2001 18:02:56




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 Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Sal, 07-21-2001 15:08:11  
Thats what those "predators" do best!! They get some poor guy all starry eyed with the shiny stuff knowing the old dirt farmer hasn't got the cash in his pocket for an outright purchase and then they nail him. The guy probably didnt have enough to invest into a machine in cash and I dont know of a bank that would lend on a 50 year old tractor, so he did the next best thing and signed away the next 3 years. For some people the ends justify the means. Good Luck to him and I hope he does well with his new machine. They will never catch me again.

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Sal

07-21-2001 18:55:16




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 Re: Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Ray, 07-21-2001 18:02:56  
Ray, I think Patrick said it best...that salesmen are supposed to sell...and if you are in the show room you are fair game.

I know the bank won't loan $ on a old 8N but the guy could ahve take out a personal loan from the bank.

Still, that is one expensive lawn mower he got LOL.



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Patrick/OR/n-tiques.com

07-21-2001 17:31:56




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 Re: I just don't get it. in reply to Sal, 07-21-2001 15:08:11  
I agree with what you are saying. That is why they pay the sales people... to sell. :-)

I had the same thing going... I wanted a 35 or more horse tractor. I went to JD. $35K into putting a deal together (excluding implements), I suddenly realized that the Ns were the way to go.

My wife said (is so many words)... S&*(! You could buy 4 Ns and have them restored for that price!

So, guess what! I now have 4 Ns and a whole pile of implements and I still do not have $35K tied up!

AND! I am having fun! :-)

Patrick

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