More on coyotes...

P.S. By the way, I am not a tree hugger, flower sniffer or granola eater. I hunt fish and trap all I can and I raise my kids to do the same.

thanks and rest assured, I have coyotes. Would like a few more though. :)

Brent

As far as the advice given it was largely what you said, hunt them in a safe, calculated fassion. There was other advice but that is what I came away with.

As far as my gun knowledge/safty skills, I have plenty to not harm anyone. I do not see something move and shoot at it. As witnessed by my lack of firing at these pups. I never even raised the gun. I knew it was not safe to do so.

I do appriciate your concern for firearm safty thou.

As a little update. Yesterday evening I mowed the field were they were intering my property. No signs they were there last night.

If I am sending mixed messages, let me make myself clear. I am not against HUNTING in any way. I am against killing animals just because they exist.

Thanks for your time and I hope that I haven't offended too many people.

Tony

Finally, you are just providing more ammo for HGI, the Brady's, Clinton's and Schumer's of the world with your illegal use of firearms. You embarrass yourselves and those of who use firearms legally and responsibly. You sound like uneducated buffoons. Think about it.

Note: this comes from a life long hunter and life member of the NRA.

Oh and by the way If I ran into my local conservation department official and told him that I shot five Coyotes Last month (I didn't but I would if need be)he would thank me and buy me a beer.

Box

Let us not forget I live in Central Texas where there IS a bounty on coyotes and there IS a rabies problem AND the authorities sanction the hunting of both problems! So much for your illegal argument and I use hollow point light load 44 mag shells in my carbine for accuracy without a lot of muzzle velocity and if you know about hollow points there isn't much chance of one "coming out" of anything it hits.

Frankly I'm appalled at the attitude towards ranchers in general. Especially the ones in Montana where the government so thoughtfully re-established coyotes to help the ranchers out! My deal still stands. I'll send you all the coyotes you care to eat!BTW just so you know the facts. I haven't missed a coyote in well over 10 years. The shot is sure or not taken.

Isn't it curious how all the lib green weenies resort to comments like the above and personal attacks when they don't have facts on their side?

I am not into killing every last critter on my land, but some just don't have a place around me.

Laws can dictate what they will, but I firmly believe that a man has the right to do what he desires on his own property, especially when it comes to 'killing something or building structure'...No, I am not advocating making my place a nuclear waste dump.

Aruond here we have way too few game wardens, who are so far behind with regular work that it will take months for them to get to you. Try and get a special permit and it will take many months. When you got a problem you need to take care of it and not let it get worse.

Many of these critters are very bold around people today and I don't think a person should take chances with them.

...I respect the land and the wildlife, but I need to live too! As for gun safety...you gotta know what your doing, that's a given. I like the bait 'em and shoot 'em idea.

IMHO

Sal

Do what you will, but it's illegal, and frankly unamerican.

If you don't like wildlife on your property, then move to town.

Brent

And Brent-neither the public nor the state owns the wildlife whether it's on your land or mine. How about accepting that NO ONE owns it??

Neither you, the government or the crown has any right to tell me that I can't kill a predator that is threatening my livestock or my family. Don't know the laws in your state, but you come on down to VA and threaten my family or me on our property and we'll see if I get prosecuted after they cart your @ss off in a black rubber bag, bubba. It is not illegal in this state to carry a concealed firearm if you have a permit, nor is it illegal to defend yourself from bodily harm by 2 or 4-legged predators.

The government does NOT own my property. I do!

What the heck is this "unamerican" cr@p? The Second Amendment says we have a right to bear arms. The laws of Texas say you can kill predators like coyotes. Texas IS still in America, isn't it? The laws of Virginia say that I can carry a concealed weapon, and the county I live in says I can kill predatory varmints. I can tell you that Virginia sure as h@ll is still in America.

You need to get your facts straight and figure out what country you live in.

Disagree to your heart's content, but finding a judge that will agree will prove to be difficult.

Brent

I can't shoot a cow that wanders on to my property, no matter what the reason - though that has nothing to do with wildlife and who owns what. But certainly, "landowners" have limitations.

Brent

Shooting a coyote in NY is a PRIVLEDGE not a RIGHT. IF you are unclear - contact your local NYSDEC representative. They can help.

Well, I learned about dogs in NY. Not true here. Though you can't just shoot strays that happen to have owners. Just like you can't shoot a neighbor's cow that "accidentally" gets on to your property, no matter what the term "accident" implies.

I'm 43. I suppose that disqualifies me on your scale of acceptable ages? A

nd trashing the environment for any nonsustainable reason is stupid. People are thinking these days and that's the point.

Brent

Well, I learned about dogs in NY. Not true here. Though you can't just shoot strays that happen to have owners. Just like you can't shoot a neighbor's cow that "accidentally" gets on to your property, no matter what the term "accident" implies.

I'm 43. I suppose that disqualifies me on your scale of acceptable ages? A

nd trashing the environment for any nonsustainable reason is stupid. People are thinking these days and that's the point.

Brent

In most places, coyotes are unprotected - you can shoot them wherever you can shoot anything legally. But that doesn't make them the landowner's property, nor can you legally shoot anything and everything just because it's on your land. You, as landowner, own the land, not the wildlife that crosses over it. That's really the only point I'm trying to make. Why people feel the need to shoot all those coyotes is another mattter, and one I can't say I understand. But as for legalities of it, that I understand perfectly well. Public ownership of wildlife is a fundamental part of being an American.

Brent

Sorry Ringy, but I don't agree. I am truly sorry about your friend and especially about his boy seeing him shoot himself, but clearly he was violating some basic rules of firearm handling. (1) He didn't have the safety on while it was in the truck; (2) he must have had his finger on the trigger before he was ready to shoot. Either that, or the rifle needed maintenance, in which case it should have been at the gunsmith's and not being used. This is gun safety 101 stuff. The reason that accidents like this happen is not because they are carrying a gun, but because they either have not had the proper training, or they got lazy with the discipline necessary for those that carry and use firearms. I have a friend here in VA that was a VA State Trooper and he got careless one day when crossing a fence with a loaded shotgun and almost blew his shoulder off with it. He knew better, but just got a little lazy and ended up behind a desk for the rest of his career. But, you can't blame the gun or the fact that folks carry one on either accident. Firearms possession is a tremendous responsibility. You need training, practice and good self-discipline to avoid accidents like the above.

Regards..... ..... Ed
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Cottonmouth and copperheads are highly territorial and within the last two weeks I had a 6 foot cottonmouth with an 8 inch girth come streaming across the stock pond after me! I blew it's head off with a hollow point at 20 yards then cr***ed my shorts! I have WAY too much wildlife on my land including Havelinas and they WILL attack when hungry! Bush hoggin' will always bring the snakes out of the tall grass and some are just plain mean and will attack. I have fang marks on my boots to prove it and thats while I was ON the tractor!

As for Coyotes, It's been over 100 for thirteen days straight and its mid summer and the rabbits are starting to thin. Coyotes normal food supply getting pretty thin around here and now they'll start getting MUCH bolder.

I'll be loaded and ready!

Obviously! How do you think Queen Hill got elected???

LOL..... Ed

The part of central Texas where I live has almost no deer that the packs of coyotes would usually hunt so they turn to the next best thing. Calves. Easy to catch and easier to kill as cows just aren't hostile attacking animals. They also don't have any natural enemies here so they multiply quickly. Snakes too are a problem but I tend to leave all of the wildlife alone on my property until they become a problem for my livelihood and then I'll protect that no matter what.

I spent two years in Oregon on the Columbia River and got to see all the Spotted Owl BS first hand. It wasn't about the owl at all. It was about clear cutting the trees and the owl was just the excuse even thoug BY LAW the logging companies HAVE to replant the land they take. The environmentalists would also like to blow all the dams out of the water on both the Columbia and Snake rivers to "save" the Salmon that the seal eat more of in the mouth of the Columbia than all of the fish ladders and dams combined! Here in central Texas it's about the Houston Toad except there aren't any within 20 miles of my property. It's a land exchange for toad habitat on the Colorado River where they built TWO golf courses for the moving out of Austin Yuppies to play on. In exchange I can't build on my land without a $3,500 toad permit per half acre of development. I truly hope I live long enough to see some common sense return to this great country of ours but until then, I'll stay in the great Republic of Texas thank you where I still have protection rights.

VERY nice piece! I've got one with the 7" barrel. VERY accurate and easy to stay on target with .44 mags due the weight of the long barrel. My younger son is amazing with it and shoots groupings so tight you can barely see the color between the bullet holes.

Take care..... .Ed
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