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8N Runs bad after warm

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Al

07-31-2001 22:33:50




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My 49 8N (recent major overhaul except carb) runs fine for about 20min. with a load. Then coughs & tries to die. I put it in neutral, adjust the large screw on carb 1 turn to left & it runs ok for another 15-20 min; then runs bad again. Once again I adjust the screw 1 turn left then it runs ok for awhile. Repeat this cycle every 20 min. I've never run it long enough to find out if I finally have to remove the screw (ha ha). Can also pull choke half-way & it smooths out. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Al

08-01-2001 08:24:10




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 Re: 8N Runs bad after warm in reply to Al, 07-31-2001 22:33:50  
Thanks Ed & Dell. That's 2 good things to check. It does have a new coil. But as you say it could be bad. And I'll check the screw on the carb. May just get a new carb. This 8n sat for 2 years & the carb was gunked up bad & hard to clean.



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ED-Illinois

08-01-2001 06:47:11




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 Re: 8N Runs bad after warm in reply to Al, 07-31-2001 22:33:50  
Although Dell's advice may be correct (heck, its pretty much always correct), I would like to relate an experience I had when I first got my 2N.

I was bush-hogging with it and the motor started to sputter, much like it was running out of gas. I pulled the choke out a little and it evened out and ran like before, so I kept cutting. However, the longer I cut, the more choke I had to apply to keep it running. Finally it just quit, and backfired. Lots of gas in the tank and there it sat. Luckily I had found this message board and soeone sugested exactly what you did, adjust the carb. I did as they instructed and it worked - she started and ran, for about 20 minutes and then the choke came back out.

After readjusting and readjusting, I looked a little closer at the carb abd noticed that the head of the screw was not in the position that I had left it in. Turns out that the vibrations from the engine running was backing the screw down, and starving the engine of gas.

On my carb, the main screw is held in place by a bent metal tab that rests against the ribbed screw head. The tab was no longer making contact and the screw could go wherever it wanted. I removed the metal tab (two screws) and bent it a little farther into position until it rested on the ribbed screw head. I haven't had to adjust the screw since (10 months) - knock on wood.

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Dell (WA)

07-31-2001 23:41:46




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 Re: 8N Runs bad after warm in reply to Al, 07-31-2001 22:33:50  
Al..... ..your engine is in such great shape that it doesn't take much sparkies to keep it running..... .BUT.....your symptoms have all the classic indications of a bad frontmount ignition coil that is heat/time related. And you can kinda keep an engine with bad sparkies runnin by enriching the mixture which is what you are doing.

Unfortunately, frontmount ignition coils are not as robust as we'd like 'em to be. Even new ones, right outta the box are known to be bad. And unfortunately, there is no eazy shadetree mechanic test for a bad ignition coil.

I recommend you replace your frontmount ignition coil..... ...Dell

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