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PJC

04-01-2000 05:04:01




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on my 48 8N I have solved my battery to starter problem by replacing with new OEM parts. If I choke during cranking for more than 15 seconds gas runs out of the carbeurator, I have spark at the plugs, engine will still not fire up, firing order is correct. My questions are how fast does the engine need to crank in order to fire up and there appears to be a dwell adjusting screw on the side of the distributor, how do I check / adjust. I had set the points to .015 per spec's.

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updraft carbs..bg

04-03-2000 19:21:05




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 Re: starting problem in reply to PJC, 04-01-2000 05:04:01  
Generally, updraft carbs don't require a long choke interval. On any N I have driven and on my air compressor with a Zenith on a Continental flathead 6, the choke is only needed for a couple of revolutions of the engine.



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Claus

04-01-2000 11:38:32




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 Re: starting problem in reply to PJC, 04-01-2000 05:04:01  
The screw on the side of the distributor, is the timing adjustment. It moves the breaker plate a few degrees in either direction to retard and advance the spark. Happy Motoring
Claus



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Huh? Wot?

04-02-2000 00:39:50




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 Re: Re: starting problem in reply to Claus, 04-01-2000 11:38:32  
Hey Claus,

Where is the screw that moves only the breaker plate? Is there a distributor different than that shown in FO-4, p. 58, Fig, FO86 and p. 60, Fig FO88? In this distributor, there are two 10-32 screws, easily seen in Fig FO86, that fasten the breaker plate firmly to the distributor case and prohibit any movement.

The clamp identified as #12 in Fig FO88 will allow the COMPLETE distributor (not just the breaker plate) to be rotated for timing adjustment. Is this what you are talking about?

Elvy

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Worse info - again - llamas

04-02-2000 15:13:43




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 Re: Re: Re: starting problem in reply to Huh? Wot?, 04-02-2000 00:39:50  
That's two people you confused in a single sitting.

His '48 8N has a front mount distributor, which is fixed in position. Timing adjustment is provided by loosening the lockscrew (shown in figure FO83) and rotating the "timing plate" - Ford's term for what I think most would call the "breaker plate" or "points plate". Pretty much as Claus described it.

llater,

llamas



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Thanks Llamas #2

04-02-2000 22:38:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: starting problem in reply to Worse info - again - llamas, 04-02-2000 15:13:43  
I was ASSuming a side mount distrubutor without consulting the year/serno table.

But, remember, that screw that Claus talks about adjusts spark timing, not point dwell/gap.

Elvy



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Claus

04-02-2000 05:27:49




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 Re: Re: Re: starting problem in reply to Huh? Wot?, 04-02-2000 00:39:50  
Perhaps my answer could have been a little bit clearer. The screw allows the breaker plate to rotate a few degrees to advance or retard igntiion timing. The screw does not actually move the plate merely hold it from turning one the timing is set. This is the screw on the outside of the front mount distributor.
Happy Motoring
Claus



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Elvy

04-01-2000 09:58:57




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 Re: starting problem in reply to PJC, 04-01-2000 05:04:01  
Choke for 15 seconds! WOW!?!?!?!? Gasoline running out of the carb? A Niagra Falls!

My 2N starts on the 2nd or 3rd piston up after choking for the first 1 or 2. I almost cannot get off the choke fast enough. (It rarely gets below freezing here.)

You need an I&T FO-4 manual for your 8N. Klikkon the "Tractor Manuals" in the upper left corner of this page and spend the best $$ you've spent so far on your toy.

Ref: I&T FO-4, p. 58, fig. FO86, view of inside of distributor with cap off: The "adjustment screw" (the one on the right) is used to adjust point gap to 0.015" after loosening the hold-down screw. i.e. There is no external point gap adjustment.

Check the voltage at the coil with the points closed. It should be battery voltage (measure post to post - not on the cable connectors) minus 0.1-0.2 volts. Iffit ain't, clean ALL electrical connections between the battery and the coil. Those cheap, cheezy ignition switches give a lot of trouble attributed to many other things. wiggle the key in all directions, turn it off/on while measuring coil voltage. Any intermittent or variation from full battery voltage - replace the switch.

Don't choke 'er to death.

Elvy

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